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Are There Any 'Impossible' Series In US Coins?

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 Posted 08/29/2011  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverCoinBoi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nothing is impossible :)
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Nothing is impossible :)


OK, go buy the (single known) 1870-S Half Dime.
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I'm not sure any US series is "impossible" to complete.... But some US coin series would be extremely difficult to the point where you'd probably need an Infinite Improbability Drive to finish them
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The first US coin series I though of was Large Cents. There is a term used in copper collecting, it is "nc" and is defined as not collectible. There are a few large cents that exist in such small quantity as to make them not collecdtible. Known examples are in museums or part of a known collection.

That said one might argue that because one or two of an item exists, there is always a chance that one will come to market. Museums rarely sell their unique coins, and if they ever did the bidding frenzy would truely be something to behold.

Your homework for the night is to research the recent sale of large cents from the Dan Brown collection. Make note of the nc coins involved and prices realized and the total the collection realized at auction. Extra credit for showing how many different collections were involved in dividing up that collection. Will the world ever see such a collection assembled in private hands again? Not likely. Please show your work.
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dont know if anyone posted this already, but the last Liberty nickel had a mintage of 5 I believe
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 Posted 09/01/2011  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How about the 1964-D Peace dollar?
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I think you mean the Dan Holmes collection. of large cents. Complete except for the 1793 NC-5 which is unique and impounded in the ANS collection. There were several other piece in the collection which are unique or only 2 known. As for whether or not that feat will ever be duplicated, there is currently one person who has 342 of the 355 varieties (He may have more now, I haven't added his latest updates yet.)
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I question whether certain coins really count as being part of the series. Things like the 1933 St. Gaudins, 1913 Libery Nickel, or the 1804 dollar were never intended for circulation (the 1913 Liberty wasn't even authorized to be made at all). So I think you could have a complete set of those series without having coins like that in the collection. Of course if I had the money and one of those was available I'd be thrilled to put them in my collection! I'm just saying you can legitimately call the collection complete without those coins.
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Wha about the three dollar gold pieces. The Stopper is the 70-S which is in the Bass collection and on indefinite loan to the ANA museum.
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I think you mean the Dan Holmes collection. of large cents. Complete except for the 1793 NC-5 which is unique and impounded in the ANS collection.

Yes I know about this collection.
I did even order the catalogue although I do not specially collect large cents. The few I have are only part of my world coins collection.
He could even pretend his collection was complete as ANS borrowed the missing coin to him.
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The word impossible could be used to describe the acquisition of some coins decades ago, however, with the advent of the Internet, that "I" word is no longer applicable.
Take for example if you are a collector of U.S. coins. Long onto E-bay.com and at any given time there are over 450,000 U.S. coins for sale at whatever price range and grade you are looking for. And if by chance you can't find the exact coin you need, just wait a week or two and it will pop up!
E-bay has opened new doors to Numismatists that are unprecedented in collecting history. I became a Member of E-bay back in 2003 and have never stepped foot in a coin store or coin show since. Why would I need to? What coin show or store stocks 1/2 million coins at any given time and rotates stock on a monthly basis? E-bay does!
So next time your looking for a coin thinking the "I" word, your obviously no a Member! What are you waiting for?

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I question whether certain coins really count as being part of the series. Things like the 1933 St. Gaudins, 1913 Libery Nickel, or the 1804 dollar were never intended for circulation (the 1913 Liberty wasn't even authorized to be made at all). So I think you could have a complete set of those series without having coins like that in the collection.

OK keeping it to just actually made for circulation the stopper is probably the large diameter capped bust half eagle. It's a short set, only made from 1813 to 1829. Ignoring varieties (So you don't need the 1828/7 with only 5 known, or the 1825/4 with only 2 known) there are only 13 coins in the set and every one of them was made for circulation. But you still need the 1815 and there are only 4 known ( RedBook says 4, Coinfacts lists 11, but it looks like so of the pedigrees may be questionable and it could be a few as 7. At least five appearances on the market in be last twenty years though.) Then there is the real stopper the 1822, only three known and two of those permanently impounded in the Smithsonian The other has been off the market for almost thirty years. I don't know who owns the third one. Bass didn't buy the Eliasberg coin when it sold in 82. But that is probably about the closest you're going to get to an impossible set.
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The five 1913 Liberty nickels weren't an official coin minted with the authority of the US Mint so I don't consider them part of a series.

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It is pretty tough to come across an 1854-S Quarter Eagle unless your family just happens to have descended from a Chinese laborer who saved his first Gold Rush wage. It had a microscopic official mintage of 246 with around 10 known survivors.
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i dont think any series would be impossible to complete. lets say there is one date/mint mark/variety that is impossible to get ahold of. then it wouldnt exist. in that case it wouldnt be part of the series. sure, some unique pieces exist that reside in the Smithsonian or other museums, but it is possible for someone to make a deal with the museum for something more desirable to showcase, or simply break in and steal it.


Hmm I wonder what the Smithsonian would trade for the missing remains of a few presidents
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