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Over Polished Die Questions

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I have these two quarters with the same over polished die areas. Made me wonder if the mint uses parts of the same dies for different years or is this just a common area of the dies to be over polished? Thanks for the info.Over-Polished-Die-Questions Over-Polished-Die-Questions Over-Polished-Die-Questions Over-Polished-Die-Questions
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 Posted 09/01/2011  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...someone really bore down on George with a file!
It must be repair to s strongly clashed die?
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It's the lowest areas of relief that get polished (because they're the highest part of the die), so over-polishing will have roughly the same effect on different dies.

You see the same thing with other types of Die Deterioration because the design repeatedly fails in the same way. For example, on Mercury dimes, many dates show die cracks going from the wing-tip to the rim. Many memorial cents show die cracks going from the corners of the steps to the rim. Many FDR dimes from different years show the same die crack near the eyebrow.
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... Just like Mercury dimes and Lincoln cents missing the bridge of the nose...
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The same events happen to the dies over and over. Clash/polish make a few thousand coins, clash/polish. Each time the die is polished a till bit mor of the fields are removed and some of the close devices start to suffer. So the same events happens from year to year, over and over until the dies are retired. Because the events (clashes) happen over and over, they affect the same areas, polish the same areas. So some dies suffer from over polishing and others suffer die wear and others both until they are no longer usable. That is just the way it is.
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Thanks, sounds like they should make more dies since they wear out so often.
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This is NOT die polishing.

It's damage caused to the die at some point in its life, but this is all mechanical - not done with a tool by a worker.

This would be considered technically a die gouge. Has nothing at all to do with die polishing.
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Die overabrasion is common around the shallow areas of the nose and eye, sometimes the nose is just left hanging...

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This is NOT die polishing.

It's damage caused to the die at some point in its life, but this is all mechanical - not done with a tool by a worker.

This would be considered technically a die gouge. Has nothing at all to do with die polishing.

I disagree. Yes there is a die gouge there but the surfaces have also been polished in an attempt to remove what they could of the gouge. You can see the gouges but they don't cause the flat area in the die that is down to the same level as the field. Also notice how much larger what blank flat area is around the eye on the second specimen. That is the result of excessive polishing. Nothing "gouged" it to make that broad flat smooth area.
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I assumed all the images were of the same coin upon my initial visit to this thread.

The first coin is a die gouge...not die polishing.

The second coin is die polishing.
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