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Serbia (Srbija)
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Are there any world coin catalogs ( like Krause ) but for the period before 1601, so medieval.
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United States
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Not yet - at least for all the world - there are individual countries out there - but pricey AND SPECIALIZED.
I have heard that Krause is planning a 1500-1599.
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Norway
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I have heard that Krause is planning a 1500-1599.
Oh my! Both good news and bad news. A 1501-1600 catalogue would definitely be nice, but this would mean another change in already existing KM numbers, throwing my system into caos. Will I realize that the KM 96 of tomorrow is the same as KM 25 of today, registered as such? In case anyone wonders, I am terrific at remembering numbers and terrible at remembering pictures. |
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 Serbia (Srbija)
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France
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I have the same issue with my Calico, got the last edition but some are using numbers from the previous edition :/
I wish they would find a better numbering scheme - like leave space between numbers for newly discovered coins, for catalogs with dates / details put the date in the numbering + letter for kind ... whatever useful.
(got an unlisted date for example - which would mean next edition of calico will change numbering for other coins following if they list it ...)
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United Arab Emirates
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I really wish there are, since the information on the internet is pretty scattered & hard to find authentic sources.
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 United States
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Numista. http://www.numista.com.For some countries it is excellent, and comparable to the sources it draws upon. Kingdom of Poland, and Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth would be an example where Numista is complete and accurate before 1600, comparable to specialty Poland catalogs like Kopicki and Gumowski, but thankfully in English! I would be interested to hear from others here about the other countries where it is very good (I have the impression that Hungary, Royal France and Britain are also solid, but I am not expert enough to say for sure). In some other areas it has errors and omissions. In the two years I have been using it, I have flagged a handful of errors in German and Italian states that the moderators there have quickly responded to. Also, in some cases Numista has made decisions on the catalog hierarchy that are different from Krause. For instance, Krause lists Lorraine as a German State, but Numista lists it as French "Feudal" even though the coinage runs into the 18th century. Not a big problem, but something to know if you use it. Edit: Oops! I just noticed this is a VERY old thread, though I guess it is an evergreen question with ongoing interest here. Maybe someone can comment on whether Krause still ha a 1500-1599 catalog in the works? Edited by tdziemia
07/22/2020 08:28 am
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United States
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I would also love to see a comprehensive catalog of pre 1600 world coins. However, I just found this post on a numista forum (looks like we're out of luck):
Posted: 19-Aug-2016, 01:20PM
I gave up trying to find an answer on-line and emailed Krause publications. The 1501-1600 catalog was never finished or published. Here's their full response:
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There are approximately 10,500 MB numbers in our database. All represent coins dated from 1501-1600.
Beginning in the early 1990's Clifford Mishler authorized us to build back the database in time from the earliest Craig dates of 1750, first to 1701, then we filled in 1601-1700 and finally we considered 1501-1600 when compiling the third edition of the Standard Catalog of German Coinage. The full project of compiling 1501-1600 was never completed and not all of this data has ever been published in print form.
When we had a live database, this data was available for consumer access there. The German types were published in the aforementioned volume. In one of our 1601-1700 volumes, I believe we included much of the 1501-1600 data, prior to the NumisMaster live database launch.
NGC licenses our data for their database and so that is why they have coins designated with the MB numbers in their holders.
By the way, MB simply stands for Mishler-Bruce.
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Numista referee for Switzerland, Swiss cantons
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Australia
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I have all of the Krause books, covering the last 400 years of numismatic history.
Further back than this time, I have about 100 specialist books that cover numismatic history in most cultures, right back to the invention of coinage 2,500 years ago.
My reference numismatic library has taken me about 40 years to build.
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United Kingdom
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Edited by Bacchus2
07/22/2020 6:08 pm
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 Australia
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The only such project I am aware of is the Medieval European Coinage series of catalogues. So far, 10 books are published and 10 more are in the planning and preparation stage; I don't know how many books they'd need to make for it to be fully comprehensive, and that's just for "Europe" i.e. not including Byzantine, Islamic, India, Southeast Asia, East Asia or the Americas. They only go up to 1500. These books are not cheap or easy to find, and I believe it's "just a catalogue", not a price guide. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Posted 09/03/2011 01:16 am
