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What do you think? Luster is a bit impaired, but fine die breaks across the eagle's left talon and Ann's shoulder clasp are still visible. I also see some residue around the obverse lettering, which resembles red georgia clay, so this may have been sleeping in the dirt for awhile. My saavy with the camera and lighting are limited, and I have a hard time capturing the mint luster in any event. These are the best I could do. Don't have a clear shot of the die crack across the clasp yet, but will work on that. Worth submitting to NGC via NCS for conservation? How big a role does luster play in assigning a MS grade? I was looking at Heritage and see a specimen that NGC graded as MS-64 that looks like 40 miles of bad road compared to this coin, so I have to admit to being a bit confused when it comes to what constitutes a Mint State designation. Chance      Edited by Chancellor Sutler
09/04/2011 11:22 pm
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Nice to see you back.  I saw the coin you referenced at Heritage; they dropped the ball badly with that one. It barely makes EF. Tough call on the dirt bath. It may just be toning after an old cleaning. Yeah, I think I'd go the NCS route with this one, but it's a risk as regards value. I believe it'll be a Details grade either way but it sure looks like it saw no real circulation. |
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Good to be back ... I had a hard time remembering my login or I'd have been back sooner. Got conflicting messages when I tried retrieving my password .... Today the password dawned on me ... duh.
Hey ... If they can give that dog a 64, this may grade straight up. It's hard to tell from my pictures, but there's a good bit more luster left than what it might appear. There are no hairlines on the coin.
This came to me with a bunch of junk nickels. The coin didn't even get a casual mention in the listing title. One of my best pick-ups in some time.
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09/04/2011 11:50 pm
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That's the one. If Uncirculated, it's an incredibly weak strike by comparison to the OP's coin. And if it is such a weak strike as to be blurring the lines in the shield, why do the clasp and talons still show (some) detail? The clasp on the OP's huge strike is all but missing. PCGS AU55:  NGC MS64:  Um, no. |
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The PCGS 55 actually looks kind of dipped.
Are you sure we're talking about the same coin? maybe there's some confusion because the heritage coin I linked does have talon detail and looks very different, unlike the picture you posted. The coin you posted doesn't look uncirculated.
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09/05/2011 1:11 pm
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Are you sure we're talking about the same coin? maybe there's some confusion because the heritage coin I linked does have talon detail and looks very different, unlike the picture you posted. The coin you posted doesn't look uncirculated.
My apologies; you're correct. I was looking at a whole bunch of different images in individual tabs, and I snagged the wrong one. That first NGC coin is an XF45, and IMO overgraded at that. This is the you you linked:  My feelings haven't changed. |
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That's the coin I was talking about ... I think. I thought it was a JR-2 as well, but it's a JR-1. I've looked at many a 64 since acquiring this coin, and there are none that even come close to being as worn as that coin. The original skin is broken at virtually every high point, and toned darker than the original surface. It's specimens like this one that make it impossible for the lay person to make any kind of judgement....other than a judgement as to the worthiness of the company that graded it. Here's a picture of the clasp on my specimen. You can see more of the dirt that's still stuck to the coin. If it was cleaned, they didn't do such a swell job of it. Chance  Edited by Chancellor Sutler
09/05/2011 2:08 pm
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I don't see any wear on the originally-posted dime. The strike seems very strong and I don't have any negative opinion about the level of detail at the clasp.
As stated, the luster is "a bit impaired" but if there is no friction rub in the fields a minor impairment of luster shouldn't knock the coin out of contention for MS-60 to MS-62. The apparently dull color could be the result of over-dipping which might get you an "MS details, cleaned" designation at ICG or ANACS. If the coin spent time in the ground it really looks remarkably well preserved.
Sounds like you got an excellent bonus with your "junk nickel" purchase. Congrats!
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I personally see consistent 'soft luster' on the heritage coin which is probably why it graded so high. I've seen the same thing on other heritage coins. Wear looks different imo.
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