1892 Indian Head Cent / IHC - Proof?

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vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 04:46 am Picked this up for $30 in an Arizona coin shop last week. In hand, the fields are very mirrored but, the coin was mishandled with fingerprints on the obverse. Don't know if it's a proof or not. What are your thoughts? swcoin.ecrater.com Edited by vermontensium 09/07/2011 04:49 am Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 06:06 am Looks possible. Your third photo shows a little cameo effect going on and the strike looks very bold and sharp like a proof would have.But I am no pro.Hope it turns out to be a proof. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
rachums107 Pillar of the Community United States 3345 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 09:12 am Hmm. Nice coin there first off. I'd wager there's a 65% chance it IS a proof. Might just be luster though. The strike seems a little weak on the headress though. Report this Post to the Staff
mycrob Pillar of the Community United States 2602 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 09:14 am Wow, she's sure pretty! Don't know if it is a proof though. That would be a steal if it is a proof! Report this Post to the Staff
upstate Pillar of the Community United States 3283 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 09:33 am I believe it was a steal either way. Nice coin Dave. Let us know if you find out definitely Report this Post to the Staff
paleoguy45 Pillar of the Community United States 2936 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 10:07 am For comparison here's my 81 Proof. Mine also has fingerprints on the obverse. With your coin in hand, you can hopefully compare the sharpness of strike etc. against mine. Mine is darkly toned instead of red though.. Paleoguy Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 10:43 am Strike does not quite look sharp enough and the luster appears to be a bit too frosty for a proof strike. IHCs can occasionally be found with PL surfaces, I am not sure if it stems from the reuse of proof dies or if the fresh dies were polished a bit before first use. Pictured below is an IHC I owned a couple years ago, certified MS-63 by ICG. The obverse looked like any other normal business strike but the reverse had blazing mirrors with a bit of cameo. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 2:15 pm Nice coin! If I had a Snow guide for 1892, I'd look for the proof markers. Perhaps it's just the pics, but something about the date area looks like mid-die state for business strike. The date area on proofs is usually crisper due to much shorter runs per die. Edited by DVCollector 09/07/2011 2:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 2:46 pm To satisfy my curiosity...I rounded up the 3 obverse proof dies for 1892, based on date position. With a total mintage of 2745, 3 total obverse dies sounds right. The bottom die seems scarcer. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 3:10 pm Thanks everyone. Paleoguy45, beautiful coin! I've seen PL IHC's before but this one had a slight cameo appearance but nonetheless, had to snag it for $30. I am having my doubts too but, who knows. I have to pick up an 1880 from Rick Snow at Long Beach Coin show on Friday. Maybe I'll show it to him. Thanks DV! You go out of your way....always ;) swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
CaptainFwiffo Pillar of the Community United States 4132 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 3:24 pm $30 is a great price for any 120 year old piece of copper that beautiful. Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 4:27 pm Great coin for $30 I learn something every time I make a photo reference. But, Snow should be able to eyeball that one. Report this Post to the Staff
fenton Pillar of the Community United States 4989 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 5:01 pm Nice coin I would say MS-62 regular business strike Report this Post to the Staff
Hambone Pillar of the Community United States 609 Posts	Posted 09/07/2011 10:41 pm Here's an 1892 proof on alaska coin exchange, PR-65 asking $900. If I'm not mistaken he's a member on this forum, just forget his username right now. http://www.coinandstampgallery.com/...I-PF65RD.htm http://www.alaskacoinexchange.com/S...I-PF65RD.jpg Report this Post to the Staff
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1892 IHC - Proof?