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The Hunt And Burn Out

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After reading some comments in the 7070 thread about how some were drawn to them because they had become bored with their current interests, I started thinking again about something: Maybe "the hunt" thrilling or not, has a certain braking effect which has been nullified by the Internet. That is, there is more opportunity now to buy what interests us than ever before. What used to take a months and years to buy from coin shows and mail order can now be done in hours. Sometimes the "hunt" doesn't exist for more than a few minutes on ebay.

"Efficiency" it seems to me at least, is just the fast lane to burn-out. There seems to be a need for balance where there is an "inefficiency" that slows things down. But not so much that collecting becomes too difficult or even unrealistic--such as hunting for 1913 Liberty Head nickels in circulation--that would be a slow forming collecting indeed, if it were possible.

I'm curious to know if anyone agrees with this and if they do how do they cope with it. 7070 albums? Reading things that directly or indirectly relate to your coin(s). Reading has a great slowing effect. No matter how fast things move on the Internet you can only read so fast. And there's no end to indirect reading about coins. I sold a Peace dollar on ebay a few years ago and got the urge to study the roaring 20's--a fascinating era. It's amazing how much enjoyment you can get from a used $10 book. What about research? There are token collectors who can spend years researching a single token or trying to discover the origins of a Maverick. What about traveling to places that are somehow connected to your coins? What is the cure for burnout?


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Disagree 8% 2 Votes
Agree 25% 6 Votes
7070 Albums 17% 4 Votes
Direct Reading 0% 0 Votes
Indirect Reading 0% 0 Votes
Travel 17% 4 Votes
Other 29% 7 Votes
I just go to the race track 4% 1 Votes

Poll Status: Locked
Total Votes: 24 Counted
Last Vote: 12/12/2006 10:11 pm
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 Posted 12/09/2006  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarlTromp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To avoid the burn out in the collecting, I read abouth coins, travel to auctions and fancy fairs to "hunt" for more coins, tokens, and coin related items, I "check" doubles to see it there are type differences, and most of all, from time to time I do other things for weeks, before the itch is comming back, and the "need" for coins get's me again ;-)

Greetings, Carl
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 Posted 12/09/2006  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I switched interests, I went from straight Morgan collecting where I collected each date/mintmark to collecting Morgan VAM's of all types to just narrowed it down to 1878 Morgan VAM's and considering there are about 250 1878 Morgan VAM's alone it seemed like it would keep me busy for a lifetime. Well I collected ALOT of 1878 VAM's and still don't have a dent in them but I was at the point where even though I may have purchased a VAM I didn't already have a week later it just looked like each and every other VAM I already had, then I had the problem to where I have just about all of the 1878 Morgan VAM's that seem to be plentiful and hit the market quite often and I would sift through hundreds and hundreds of 1878 Morgans and not find anything I needed so I started to get a little burnt out and would even skip days of looking at 1878 Morgans (where I used to search each and every 1878 Morgan that hit ebay,Teletrade,Heritage,sacks and David Lawrence) the Dansco 7070 allowed me to see something different and when I filled a hole I was looking for a different looking coin instead of the same thing over and over so the 7070 definately helped make collecting fun for me again
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 Posted 12/09/2006  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BRUCE 1947 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Longnine,
I never have or every will buy a coin from the internet that said, for me every time I would search for the coin and eventually find that coin I was always let down because the search was over. I was getting board with this hobby and ready just to quite and move on to something else. Then one night I was at my other forum and a member showed his 7070 type set and all the coins had holes.Bingo I just had to find out more about these coins and that set.Chris who is a member here and who is the owner of that set was kind enough to give me all the info I need to get going.Because of that set I am back to reading, studying, and doing research on all the coins in that album, collecting now is fun again and yes the internet has helped in my research.Now I am back to searching just because a collector friend showed a picture.It is important that this forum and others in are hobby do all we can to share or knowledge and to keep the thrill of the search, and to keep are emotions high.
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My collection is pretty diverse with just about all denoms in an active or active reserve catagory,,

I think that helps keep things even,, I will search for a coin or two in one series and then maybe a coin or two in a different one,,

I have also been working on the photography end of collecting, which has helped to take out the fatigue that can come from everyday collecting, and taken my frustration levels to new heights once only achieved by my first wife.

I also read ,study and watch what others are doing and the progress that is being made by others.

I have been going back through coins some of which I have not looked at in a few years to photograph them,, in doing so I have found what looks like a DDO 1944 Jefferson ,, again the photography part has been totally frustrating for me on this coin.

I will be shopping soon for a QX or something that I can photo these type coins with.

I guess what all this means is I think diversification is the key to not burning out !!

Rick
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 Posted 12/10/2006  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I feel I would be like Metalman on this one. While there are series I would prefer to collect I found that by working different albums at the same time I could always locate something at my local dealer after making the trip down there. It may take longer to actually assemble a set but it does help avoid burn out. I also spend time reading and have found ways to actually turn my woodworking into a numismatic endeavor as well. Works for me!
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 Posted 12/10/2006  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add longnine009 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies. I think I know exactly what Bryan1315 is saying about VAMS. I got burned out on Lincoln BIEs for the same reason. After about 500 of them you pretty much have seen all the combinations.

I think these 7070 albums are on their way to becoming big winners with coin collectors! And with them maybe the return of authentication certificates isn't so far-fetched anymore.
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I think the key to avoiding burn out (in any aspect of our lives) is diversity. With coins, I agree with most of the comments made above. Working on multiple sets simultaneously keeps it fresh for me. I feel no pressure to complete a set, for me the enjoyment comes in obtaining and accumulating pieces I find appealing. Whether it's a shiny Lincoln, a well worn Walker, or a proof eagle 1/10 oz., etc. If it appeals to me, I get a charge out of adding to my collection.

Years ago this hobby was very different. Collectors circa 1950 found real treasure in their pockets. Buffaloes, Mercs, Walkers, Franklins, Indian heads, etc., were all somewhat common. Collecting today requires financial resources. We have to spend money, sometimes a lot of money. But what compares to the charge of fetching our recent purchases from the mailbox?

Reading about coins in periodicals and books and watching items on ebay helps make me a smart collector. Being part of a forum like CCF is the icing on the cake. This forum we share gives us all an opportunity to keep in touch, exchange ideas, learn from each others mistakes, and so much more.

Being out of work for a number of months has given me an opportunity to immerse myself in the hobby. I know when I go back to work (hopefully soon) I'll have less time to devote to collecting, but I know it's still here for me.

This is a great forum. Thanks guys..

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I guess I avoid burnout by switching my focus between my hobbies. Right now it's hockey season, so that's where most of my time, money, and energy are going. I also have my garden to keep me busy, and any gardener knows that can be a full time job!

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This may seem rather silly but I consider the U.S. Mint a good cure for burn-out. With all the different items the mint throws at us each year it can be rather exciting with the low mintage "specials" that seem to being appearing yearly. Also I do a lot of my gift shopping at the mint and this too keeps me interested and keeps my collection growing (you know, 1 for them, 1 for me).
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On the opposite end of the scale from Bryan's problem, the endless progression of similar coins is exactly what appeals to me most about my current specialization. That sort of mind-numbing parade of identical pieces, requiring the viewer to find the one needle in the haystack, appeals to me. Then again, I never claimed to be particularly normal.

I stave off burnout by keeping a whole lot of unrelated balls in the air at once. At any given time, I've 10 browser tabs open covering 4 or 5 totally unrelated subjects from computers to coins to biking to just plain "I wanna read about this thing now," with a liberal sprinkling of Google Video, Flurl and YouTube for comic relief.

For those rare occasions when I'm awake, not on the clock and not at the keyboard, I generally have two or three books in progress, ranging from Science Fiction to detective mysteries to Rolling Stone.
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 Posted 12/10/2006  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would have to agree with you Bill, and have not started any new series of collecting for the last eight years. I'm hoping to last untill the quarter issue finishes and then I'll even hang that one up to dry. As far as the reading goes, I'm not a good reader and hate listening to the radio or TV, so you might say I'm just letting it burn out and being done with it in due time.
You might call it slow withdrawal!
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Gene, if you hang it up after the State Quarters you might not have any reason to come in here and that just won't do my friend. What about those 7070 albums? Seems like everyone likes them.
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I try to hit local coin shops wherever I go. I have found that with the Internet, prices are fairly constant. However, some regional fluctuation does still occur. For example, the St. Mtn. commem is popular where I live (Stone Mtn.), but in Illinois it goes for significantly less. I guess just finding things little things like this keep me interested and hunting!
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I think my temporary burnout came from trying to do "too much too soon". Come March of next year, I'll have two years under my coin collecting belt, and I've purchased nearly a thousand coins in that time. At first, I couldn't get enough - just buy, buy, buy with little knowledge of what I was buying.
Then I decided to buy the Dansco Albums to store my collection in. A new way of collecting for me in that I used the Dansco as a guide - if it has a hole, get the coin for it, and I'm sure I don't need to expound on the thrill of putting that last coin in a full album. But, it seems that thrill is short lived too, and, after the thrill, comes a little let down - it's no longer a challenge because you've completed it, so it's on to something else, but it seemed to become redundant after awhile.
Bought some books on coin collecting, and read articles on the internet - that's an ongoing thing.
I read about the Dansco 7070 here in the forum, and thought it might be a new challenge, so that's the direction I'm going in. That doesn't mean I intend to put the rest of my collection aside, and just concentrate on this one album. I'll still be working on my other albums, but this one has given me a new direction - a new challenge.
Although I have several of the coins for this one, I'm starting to look at, and buy particular coins to fill the holes in it. As I said, it's something new I've been needing.
I do have other hobbies - the foremost of which is leathercraft. Started as a hobby, turned into a profitable business, and now, after more than 40 years, I'm back to the hobby stage again.
I think, in my situation, it's a case of doing something because you want to versus doing it because you feel you have to.
Thanks for letting me ramble - getting older, and living alone does seem to have it's drawbacks, and rambling, when given the opportunity, seems to be one of them. :)

Ralph
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Originally posted by Ralph



Thanks for letting me ramble - getting older, and .......etc.

Ralph


Don't let that worry you Ralph, just kick back and enjoy the fruits of your labor. Or put more bluntly, "join the crowd".

As for not collecting and giving up coming here to the forum and visiting with some od the best prople on this earth, now that you've got me you will have to drive me off with a big stick if you don't want me signing on and giving all of you my 2 cents worth ever now and then.
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