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1909 Indian ......now I Know You Can See This Mint Mark

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 Posted 09/29/2011  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see it as well. I does look kinda obvious once you know its there.
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 Posted 09/29/2011  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think I would have seen it if I wasn't told. It is obvious now, even when I look at the sellers pictures. It will be completely evident when you get it if it actually has the miint mark or if it is just our imaginations. Good luck!
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 Posted 09/29/2011  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see it.
I would take the gamble for $13
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 Posted 09/29/2011  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SDcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i see it as well. hats off to you if its not. heck its only $13
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 Posted 09/29/2011  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Suppose for just a minute that I'm right ... and there's a "S" mint mark there. ... and it does appear to be smaller than the others. I even spent awhile looking at 08-S reverses to see if there was a smaller "S" on any of those. I've not found one. I don't have an 09-S Lincoln Cent, but I wonder how that stamp and the one that created this mark compare?

If this thing is marked as it appears to be ... it's got to be either a new and previously unknown reverse die ... a "micro-S" variety, which seems unlikely 102 years into the game .... or counterfeit.

Curiouser and curiouser. I guess we'll know soon enough.

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 Posted 09/29/2011  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Funny Money to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the "S". The bottom half looks kind of like a "D", and the top half is covered in verdigris. Good eyes! I love taking gambles like this too! 13 bucks isn't a huge wager either when the payout could be well over 30 to 1. Nice pick-up.
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 Posted 09/29/2011  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see it plain and clear. Of course, I'm used to spotting nearly hidden details on messed up coins...
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Can't wait for the results!
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see an S there - even w/out enlarging it jumped right out at me (but I have done a lot of detailed computer graphics work for years).

I agree that it is either a third variety or (hope not!) counterfeit.

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 Posted 09/30/2011  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like an S is there, especially when enlarged. However, I would be concerned that this S is farther left than the others. It might be wishful thinking on this one. No one would remove a mint mark. Send it in to get slabbed and see what happens. Not much to lose here.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  01:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was thinking more along the lines of sending it to Rick Snow. The TPGs would just body bag it. If I have it in hand and am still convinced that it's there and always has been, then I think a noted authority should take a peek at it.

If it's not there, then this will have been a great excercise in the power of suggestion, ultimately leading to group hallucination.

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 Posted 09/30/2011  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Suppose for just a minute that I'm right ... and there's a "S" mint mark there. ... and it does appear to be smaller than the others.
I want to give this coin a fair shake--could you post a picture of the mm area without the black lines?
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 Posted 09/30/2011  02:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's the image that appeared in the listing.

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 Posted 09/30/2011  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't save an unedited enlargement of just the mintmark area of the Chino Hills coin.

Just for fun ... see if you can take the reverse image from this listing and lighten it up and see what I saw. I bought this one the same day. It's on its way from Nova Scotia.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/37039720609....m1439.l2649

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 Posted 09/30/2011  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After looking at this latest picture without the enhancements, I don't think there is really an S there. We all would like it to be there but I think it is really wishful thinking.
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