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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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toned coins are not damage, they are usually the ones graded higher, BTW those "scratches" are die polish lines.
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Pillar of the Community
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4867 Posts |
I find this sort of toning or any kind for that matter to be repulsive and I do consider it damaged.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Overpriced, yes. Damaged, most definitely not...
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Bedrock of the Community
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I guess coins like this is a good example of how everyone one likes something different.
There are many collectors that like having a nice toned coin, and some collectors like
having the original just struck look. Coins are graded based on wear, or lack of wear,
also free of hits and how well the coin is struck.
I have seen very negative looking toned coins get a high grade.
I have to ask .. how long have you lived in Grayling?
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Pillar of the Community
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Overpriced, yes. Damaged, most definitely not...  In my eyes, that's a beautiful coin. |
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Pillar of the Community
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850 Posts |
It is a beautiful coin but is way to pricy for me.
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Pillar of the Community
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I personally do not like toned coins. I do not see them as damaged, however, the way I see it, the greater the deviation a coin is in appearance and detail from when it left the mint, the worse it is.
I don't agree with the grade on this coin. It look MS-65 (no star). Even if I thought toning as a good thing, this coin doesn't get the star from me. 66 is also tough for a 47S washington, that coin isn't that great.
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Pillar of the Community
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I actually like the look of this toning.
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Pillar of the Community
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I think it does warrant a star designation. That only goes to the visual appeal of the coin, not the details grade. The toning is very pleasant and appears to be natural. Now, whether it can be considered damaged is a different story, not getting into AT vs. NT, I dont' see how anybody can consider this damage in the numismatic sense. The toning is just a natural chemical reaction between the silver and environmental compounds. Presuming it is not AT, if you were to call this coin damaged, you would have to call 99% of all circulation coin damaged as well. Every none full RD Lincoln, IHC, or any other copper coin would then have to be considered damage as the brown color is just the result of natural chemical reactions. Most silver coins have some sort of toning as well. So, while a person may not like the look of toned coins, which is completely a personal preference, I don't see how you can call this coin damaged unless it was obviously tampered with to achieve that color and toning. |
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Pillar of the Community
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I've actually bought from that seller. I think they put up high prices with "or best offer" so that buyers have to come in with the first offer. I saw one Mercury dime I wanted, but it was overpriced for the grade by a factor of three. I sent in an offer at about fair-market value (considering the above-average eye-appeal), and they took it. |
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The seller seems to have a ton of rainbow toned coins..
Is there a way to induce rainbow toning?
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, it's possible and coin doctors definitely do it, although doing it while the coin is in the slab is probably more difficult. In this case, the cert lookup shows a picture, which shows the coin was toned at the time it was slabbed (of course, how else would it earn the star), and NGC seems to think it's natural toning. |
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Pillar of the Community
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When I saw the topic I though why not if I have some graded as proof 70 lol ! Is hard to understand sometimes as to be ms 65 or higher the coin must have 100% mint luster on it ?!.
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Pillar of the Community
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The toning on this coin does appear natural to me. Whenever a seller seams to have a bunch of rainbow looking coins, they were usually doctored.
On another note, lets say that this coin deserves to be called MS-66*. Doesn't that make it worth something like $100. Somebody paid $775 for that thing?
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Pillar of the Community
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It's a very nice coin. I don't think it's 66 though; more like 65 in my book. But about toning, IMO there is beautiful toning, and there is ugly toning. This certainly isn't ugly toning.
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Posted 09/30/2011 12:05 am
