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1987-S Lincoln Memorial Cent Proof D/D

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Anyone seen this 1987 S proof double die. Sorry the pics are not that great. couldn't get the lighting right.

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 Posted 12/17/2006  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madhandles761991 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not quite sure, but it doesn't quite look like a DD, I think I had a coin like this once and coppercoins told me that it was something different. Someone else will come along to help
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clashed die. I would think. But in either case. I think is a nice little find. I keep finding proof set pennys wth a bunch of errors from the 80s
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well it looks to spread apart to be Mechanical Doubling but I have definately been wrong before and wouldn't be surprised if I was this time, the people to answer this question would be coppercoins or metalman they are the ones I know that collect lincoln cents
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Can I get a picture of the whole obverse ?

The lighting on those that you posted make them a little deceptive,, I see what looks like Mechanical Doubling with split clad layer .

Just a good clear pic of the obverse . to go along with these.

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 Posted 12/18/2006  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a simple case of split plating.

A clashed die would show details from the reverse - not doubled obverse details.

"Clad" is used to describe sheets of different alloys sandwiched together to form the overall coin stock - like with quarters, dimes, and half dollars. Cents are not clad. They are plated.
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 Posted 12/19/2006  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nathanscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
its not split plating. it only looks zinc in the picture because on the lighting. It Is doubleing The best point to veiw is the D its the only letter that looks right in the picture.
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 Posted 12/20/2006  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add madhandles761991 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
can you post pics from another angle, because it sure doesn't look like it.
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well coppercoins is an expert in Lincoln cents and if its out there I am sure he has seen it so I wouldn't just take his word with a grain of salt, I would definately look further into it because like I said he sees thousands more of these thing more than the average man and he knows what he's looking at
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The pictures are all that we can go by, Those are up to you to post the very best pics that you can get of your coin,,This gives a shot at seeing what your seeing .

Try them again with a different lighting, One of the best is to take the pic outside in daylight,,



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I think I understand whats happening here. There is not zinc showing on this coin in real life. What ever looks zinicish in those pictures is from the glare from my lighting. The coin is copper colored all over. No zinc showing.
These might be better pics.
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These are much better pics, I await other responses! Please don't get upset - we're just trying to help!
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 Posted 12/20/2006  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nathanscoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no no ,,not getting up set. lol I just didnt know how some saw zinc. When it wasnt there. :)
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 Posted 12/21/2006  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Nathanscoins

To me the doubling looks like double strike flat field doubling,,But as always I will wait for coppercoins to answer so I can check my answer ,, He is a true expert ,, I have alot to learn !!

Check it out on this site

http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/...Doubling.htm

The reason that I thought that the plating was split is because silver is not a natural color on a Lincoln Cent, neither is the blue in the second set,, try taking your pics on a white back ground ,, you can eliminate some of the color transfer from the back ground to the coin.

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the coins is inside the US MINT plastic case.
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The coin shows split plating in all of the photos. For the better part it is due to die wear, which caused the ridges. Bottom line, the coin is worth normal coin value, and the doubling is not a doubled die. End of story.
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