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Depending on how many sets you have, Cherry Pick two 70 sets one for you, and one to flip for premium. I believe in leaving sets sealed because a serious collector will pay. I find it more appealing to offer a gamble, then to gamble myself. If my finances were a little better, I might sway to opening them all. lol Most important of all......remember a heat gun can solve all your problems.....  And I just remembered another member posted that they were shorted a set from the mint. Ordered 5 but only received 4 in the box, completing the order. SO if you have sealed sets weigh them!! Edited by amassey08873
08/22/2012 3:07 pm
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PBGS has been messing up orders lately. The box that was supposed to contain my 5 uncirculated ASEs only had one coin in it. The FedEx weight for it was 8 ounces, less than the weight of five coins in their blue boxes alone (11 ounces). All five coins in a box packed for shipping should have weighed over one pound. Both UPS and Fedex weigh the packages and record that weight on the tracking pages so if you are shorted be sure and check (and record) that info. When you are shorted, you have to fill out a "Certification of Non-Receipt", FAX or mail it in, and wait 4 to 6 weeks for "review and processing" in the meantime, I am out the money for the four coins I haven't received. Eventually, they should refund my money, then actually ship the 4 coins and bill me again (with no charge for shipping). I FAXed my CoNR and they do not respond at all, you have to assume that they are working on it.
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just got my NGC PF 69 set from silvertowne its the first slab coins I have ever got but these coins don't look PF 69 to me there's nicks and milk spots mostly nicks in the fields of RP and reg.. proof also . Is there anyway I can tell if these coins were really graded by NGC or could they be fake slabs ? How do I look up the cret.. number for these coins ? Or can I even do that ? These coins don't look to me like they would PF 63 or 64 IMHO
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08/22/2012 5:13 pm
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I'll answer that better when my sets are delivered back from NGC (today I hope)
Hoping for (3) 70 sets from my 7 1/2 submitted sets (one proof had real issues so it went nowhere)
Well...mixed reaction...I did NOT get my 3 70 sets. I got 2...but I got 5/8 RP 70's and only 2/7 PF 70's. I guess picking up the 3 proof 70's SHOULD be cheaper than the RP The proof is definitely the laggard in quality here...as expected from just looking at them |
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Is there anyway I can tell if these coins were really graded by NGC or could they be fake slabs ? How do I look up the cret.. number for these coins ? Or can I even do that ? Go to their website and look up the cert verify and put in the numbers on the slab. There are fake slabs out there but theres about a 0 percent chance silvetown bought one considering these almost certainly came from a large order they sent in themselves. Quote:
The proof is definitely the laggard in quality here...as expected from just looking at them Youd think itd be the other way around. The more I hear about them the less inclined I am to keep my order from the mint in october |
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OK looked my coins up on NGC and yes they were graded by NGC .Hard to believe that they would let these coins go for PF 69's . Now that I see how these TPG work graded coins seem less important to me now |
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Blame the mint. Theyre the ones that messed up somewhere along the way with the plancet that causes those spots to develop overtime. Its likely that when NGC saw these coins the spotting hadnt happened yet, but you can always send them back for another set. Either way 1 coin doesn't define a TPGs ability but if you dont like them you dont like them. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes.
Its hard to really comment on the work without seeing a picture of it for me personally
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point taken baseball the milk spots may not have been there when graded but I bet all the nicks and flakes in the fields of the reverse proof were. guess I'm just not a slab person
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You just may not be a slab person, but are you sure its on the coin? Sometimes the slab can get nicked up making it look like its on the coin, the proof parts are by far the biggest victim of that illusion
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Most important of all......remember a heat gun can solve all your problems..... ... How exactly do you mean with this heat gun theory? It worked at Blockbuster Video in the 1980's but do you seriously think PCGS or NGC would fall for this nonsense? I'll assume you were just joking but seriously bro, once the tape is ripped or cut from the original mint packaged box; all bets are off. If you bought a set/sets then you should certainly know that once you open the box there is no sealed plastic around the blue mint box to reheat or seal back up?  Erik |
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I'm guessing if he was serious he meant for the tape on the box. How effective that would actually be I have no idea
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I would love to see a pic that shows the "milk spots" on the 2012 set. It is a tad early for them to develop and it would be the 1st reported case on this set.
If they are as ugly as described I agree that you just should have returned them to ST for replacements or a refund.
My 69's look great....
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I am happy with my first order of eight sets. They all looked good with a 10x led loupe.
Sent them all to NGC for S ER label. 11 of 16 coins slabbed 70. 6-RP70,5-PF70,2-RP69,3-PF69
Waiting on 6 sets on 9/28 to grade. Don't think I will see 68.1% 70s this time. Good hunting and best wishes everyone. Hi Yo Silver!
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Off topic but in an August 27 CoinWorld article, Deputy Mint Director Richard Peterson said that the upgrade to the mint ordering system is currently on hold. Apparently what they were doing was an upgrade to a very old system (as opposed to putting an entirely new system in place) and new studies show that such an upgrade won't really fix the problems. The current system breaks down at around 5000 orders per hour (web and phone combined). The study contractor recommended that the mint buy up all of the spare parts they can for their current system as it is no longer supported by the manufacturers. I suppose that is a plan to keep the current system running until a proper fix can be deployed. What this means to us is that it is unlikely that the mint will introduce any new products in a way that will cause a rush of orders that would approach the 5000/hour breakdown point. |
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