New Silver Eagle SF Mint Two-Coin Set

Clair I agree the details on the uncirc are great, even the bullion coins have been looking especially nice lately.

I almost wish the proofs didnt have such a deep mirror on them. I like the mirror look but its gotten so great that the slightest little thing just stands out so much it seems impossible to really have a perfectly clean one over time.

I agree too the RPs are by far my favorite. The mirror on them is great and without it taking up such a substantial part of the coin you dont run into those same clean looking problems

Just from availability I would guess they have graded more as 70s than PCGS and may be surprised by the low number waiting for those populations to increase a bit before releasing theirs. Or theyre just lazy who knows. It is quite odd populations for a coin that came out afterwards are up and that isn't

I don't believe calling me an idiot when you don't even know me is necessary

I see nothing wrong with informed collectors preferring and paying for FS/ER labels on their coins. I am reasonably sure that most here know that all of those designations really mean "first shipped" and nothing more, nothing about the coin itself. My issue is with the TPGs and Telemismatists who continue to imply that the labels mean that the coins are somehow special. The coins so labeled were, in fact, among the first made available to the public and were almost certainly minted prior to the release date. Unfortunately there are many casual collectors who don't know that by that time many die sets have come and gone and that there is as much variation among FS/ER coins as there will be among coins minted and/or shipped out later.

The FS/ER labels do mean something, just not what their name implies. They mean that the coin was shipped out by the mint in the first 30 days of shipments. This almost certainly means that the coin was minted before shipments began. The value of this sort of provenance is clearly questionable but for those who, like wif99, buy coins so labeled because they enjoy the look of them, the value they attribute to the label is something they have determined to be worth their money. It is not the buyers of these items we should attack or even deride, it is the makers and perpetrators of false meaning and false value that we should shine out lights on.

My Two Cents:

First Strike is a meaningless term (explanation above)

Early Release actually makes sense...the coin was from a early release (shipment) of the coin. Nothing mentioned about when it was minted just when it was "released" and at no extra cost it is a no brainer when having coins graded.

.... Well, let's see.... Those who bought the PCGS FS pr70's sets from ST for $239 in the beginning... Hmmm, then there are people like you, who feel it is meaningless to buy these labels and they wait & wait & wait... Well, if people like you want PCGS 70's right now, your going to pay close to $450 for it; so who is the "unintelligent human being" as of right now? The answer is pretty simple... You

Erik

I sent in 5 sets of 2011 Eagles that's 15 coins to PCGS at a cost of $510, Got back 2 RPs, 1 S, 2 Regular Proofs certified 70 Just the 2 PRs paid for the cost, the rest were Bonus

Had I sent the Same Coins to NGC as other members reported My Percentage of 70s would have been better at less cost, but in my opinion I would have had less Quality.

NGC is to free with their 70 grades and there for will always sell for less than PCGS

With the 2012 I sent 6 sets in to PCGS at a cost of $418 and the jury is still out, but in the long run at 30% 70s I believe I will Make my money back +