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 Posted 05/10/2012  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wonder what will happen with the new JP Morgan trading loss of 2 billion. Frightening that this is overlooked and allowed. Back to the subject. Odd that the price is still below with the Euro issues. I hope my local shop has some avail. I haven't bought in a while
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 Posted 05/10/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add homerecher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As silver drops, it might be hard to buy from local shops. They wouldn't be able to sell for a loss. What sites would you guys recommend to buy 90% and 999?
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 Posted 05/10/2012  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes but at least this drop has been more gradual than last year. I was lucky to be able to still buy at 3percent over spot then. So hopefully it will be available now.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
homerecher,

After witnessing the last crash when silver dropped from $21 to sub-$10 in 2008, let me reassure you that you will have no problem finding sellers. But the premium will be a lot higher until things stabilize. Most were asking for spot + $4-5 for a while there. Same with ebay auctions. But after three months or so of sluggish silver movements, prices, and perceptions, coalesced into some incredible opportunities. I'd love for it to happen again but that would require another stock market collapse, which I'd prefer to avoid.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well Hawk, there is your $0.50 recovery. (You did say that, right?) It looks steep, lets see if it'll hold or just bounce.
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 Posted 05/11/2012  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did mention a false recovery Harrison, followed up with another steep drop to close the week out around 28 per oz., an it is settin at $28.65 last glance and 6 plus hours to to go yet....

For those dollar over spot J&M bars should be lookin good for some of ya, but of course I can't get more for perhaps a week or so....

Rarely does the silver drops line up with my limited funding to allow a key buy when it drops, but maybe I can still add more on the backside push back across thirty, if that does indeed take place....

Who knows, with analysts making comparisons every day to 2008, we may see a bigger window open down to 20 or the teens, something I have never seen as of yet....

I saw an Engelhard 100 oz. end earlier at $3150, right on the money as rare do you get much over spot per oz. on that bulk size buy....

But, I also just saw a decent basic ASE in case an border settin at $38 bucks with minutes left, so they are still paying a high percentage over spot on ebay as they always do. Especially on the smaller stuff....
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05/11/2012 11:33 am
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 Posted 05/11/2012  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man, if silver dropped to $28 and gold to $1550 by the end of the day, I would probably have to buy a little of both...
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 Posted 05/11/2012  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Barry 1550 an 28 bucks is probaby a real window for many waitin on that, an who knows we may see 1500, even 1400 gold still yet. Which would mean at this current G to S ratio, silver would be WAY undervalued at that point, say down to like 20 per oz.. Not that silver is not undervalued anyway.....

55 to 1 ratio, geeeez, maybe a good time to trade some gold for silver being that undervalued....
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05/11/2012 11:44 am
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 Posted 05/12/2012  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add larsdog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sticking with my prediction that precious metals are in for more correction.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Wonder what will happen with the new JP Morgan trading loss of 2 billion.

I dunno, Angel. I'm just wondering if this is the extent of their losses or are they MUCH bigger than this. JPM has a HUGE derivative portfolio, so could be on the hook for hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars. Hard to say at this point but I would not be inclined to take JPM's word for it.

As to PM prices... man, the situation is incredibly complicated by all of the factors now in play. Iran & Syria, European debt, China and India buying or not, US dollar gaining a bit of strength, market volatility, mine production, etc, etc, etc. My guess is that gold will bottom around $1550-1560 and silver around $27-27.50 but there is no data whatever to support that... just the "gut". Got lots of dry powder, though, so can strike while the iron is hot!
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 Posted 05/12/2012  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think we only hear about an issue with the hedge fund/derivative market when they lose all the bets and new cash to bet. JPMorgan already was saying maybe another Billion by the end of the quarter! They say a billion like I would say $100! That whole world of money schemes makes me sick and it makes me sick it is allowed! Govt involvement or lack of it is destroying our country. Look at the airports and the wonderful 'security'. Makes me sick. I know a tangent but sickening
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 Posted 05/13/2012  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That whole world of money schemes makes me sick and it makes me sick it is allowed! Govt involvement or lack of it is destroying our country.


Your average taxpayer really can't win. The constitution was a darn good instrument of freedom but when people say that money is the root of all evil, I say greed is. If we had a laissez faire system in place like we once had, people would be completely taken advantage of and snake oil salesmen would infest every market. So unchecked capitalism is simply pure evil, IMO. But then after the public outcry, government comes in and regulates the heck out of everything and greed still ultimately seeps into the equation. Lose, lose. I know I don't have the answer, that's for sure.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brexzz1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have 350 Canadian silver dollars I am trying to sell in Toronto area and are getting no takers at $17 per piece :(
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 Posted 05/13/2012  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollect1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
get 50 posts and talk to me.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well speaking as a senior citizen I sure do not want interest to be 0.25 percent I wish it was 10% like my parents were lucky enough to get 12% on there savings. I remember after putting my mother in a nursing home she still had one IRA CD that was paying 12% when my dad got it he was smart enough to take it for ten years.

Being that I was paying my mothers bills the bank sent a letter trying to get her to change that CD once a week naturally it was to her benefit but she collected that 12% for the entire ten years.

Anyway like ED said the government has to keep interest at nothing to prolong the inevitable that will happen anyway sooner or later.

Sure wish my savings could be getting 10% and they would be and then some if not for the mess our government created.
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