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2015 Coin & Chronicles Set - Harry S Truman

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 Posted 07/09/2015  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well at $199 for a 69 that means it would raise the value by about $60... So counting the costs of grading it really only increases the value by about $20... That does it I probably won't get my two graded. I will wait to see how they play out with this coin and possibly see if it would be more worth it for the other RP dollars in the future
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 Posted 07/09/2015  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add corey151302 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That seems like a good move Mister Kairu and I think I will do the same. Since the probability of it grading 70 (at least for me) is basically 0 and there is a high chance that it may grade lower than 69 I may actually lose money by getting them graded. However, this is only a short term price and is not nearly reflective of a market price. I will need to reevaluate it later but if you are in it for the semi-long term, it shouldn't be a problem to get them graded later without the early release designation, in my opinion.

In my opinion, this set hasn't even come close to realizing its true potential. It may be years though before it does. I'm talking 1995-W ASE level of price increases (maybe not quite as high, but proportional to the cost and popularity between the series). The Presidential dollar series is popular, it is not tremendously popular as the ASE, but it does have followers and I expect once the series is completed, it will attract more followers.

And with a mintage of 17,000 it is only a matter of time until it becomes highly desired by collectors of the series. Would anyone realistically argue that only 17,000 people would want a full collection of the Presidential dollars? It is just a matter of how many more than that 17,000 want a full collection and then we will see a big price increase. On top of that, reverse proof coins alone have a following (Personally I hope to collect all the reverse proof coins) So it seems a price increase is inevitable. However, I am not sure how long that will take. It could be five years or it could be twenty years. But, I imagine that those in it for the long haul will see a bigger return than we're seeing today for all the C&C sets assuming the mintage stays low. I could be completely wrong though Haha.
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 Posted 07/09/2015  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mister Kairu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very well put sir. I would also think so 17,000 for any type or denomination of coin is really going to be something special. Super low mintage yet unlike the RCM or Perth because it is already part of two established sets (Pres dollars and RP set). Can't wait to see what a full 4coin RP dollar set will go for.
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 Posted 07/09/2015  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cmjohnso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i read somewhere that the mint will also do a reverse proof on the Reagan set. I just cant remember where I read it
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 Posted 07/09/2015  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cmjohnso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://www.moderncoincollector.com/...proof-coins/

this is the information about the Reagan reverse proof
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 Posted 07/09/2015  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So far, no Population report on NGC site yet.
There's one seller listing one PF70 (he stated he has multiples) for around $800.

We'll need to keep on tracking.
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07/10/2015 6:54 pm
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 Posted 07/10/2015  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add corey151302 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$25k is insane. A shot in the dark, I don't think anyone will bit especially since NGC 70s are priced at around $800, way too big of a differential.
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Very true Corey but I wonder if the pcgs FS labels will garner a slight premium over ngc being pcgs for one and also I bet with the ridiculous doubling of fees for the FS label how many will be in pcgs slabs?

Personally I'm a pcgs guy and I like my coins in the clear slabs but I think the truman RP just looks better both with the white background and the pres label imho
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 Posted 07/10/2015  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add corey151302 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like PCGS better too for the most part. And you are right, the $18 fee for FS compared to $5 at NGC is ridiculous. However, regardless of what people think about the labels, PCGS will never demand that high of a premium over NGC.

I am definitely going to go with NGC when I get mine graded because the membership fee pays for itself and I save $13 per coin on ER vs PCGS FS, which if I grade 20 of the C&Cs adds up to $260, which I can't justify spending that much more on PCGS.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You seem like a very knowledgeable new member corey. We're glad to have you!
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 Posted 07/10/2015  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CSOTUS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
25k wow.

He is setting the market for 70 PCGS but there is no way he gets that. Maybe thats why he added the make offer button
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MCM only has 73 left of the $199 PF/MS 69 sets. Get 'em while you can....

It will be interesting to see if they sell all of them before dropping the price a tad
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The one NGC PF70 I've mentioned just got sold (w/in 24hrs of listing it) - the guy has a few of the 70 and 10+ of the 69.

I think 69 and 70 grade will be hard to get but with early market setter such as MCM setting the price at around $200, the price not gonna move much until they are depleted of their inventories. Btw, MCM haven't list any PF70 yet; I'm sure they have at least 10-20 of them, and just waiting to gage the market value/price.
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 Posted 07/10/2015  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldSkoolMadSkilz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How is the grading spread on these? Am I correct in guessing that the majority are coming back 68 and 69 with extremely few 70s? I have one unopened box that my daughter "bought" and I'm wondering if I should keep it that way.

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