Exclusive Masters Club Renewed Silver Dollar Series

I think you give them too much credit. There is not a chance the Mint had any thoughts of generating interest or any other ulterior motive IMO. They don't give a hoot whether coins appreciate in value after they sell them. Their short term goal is to maximize their own revenue now. It's just as likely that they could only source 2200 boxes or they had 2200 2oz blanks lying around. They simply have proven over and over that they are just not that in tune with collectors though every other blue moon they manage to create something we want despite themselves.

As for the goose, it is ugly and that's why it didn't sell. The Voyageur coin is not only well done (obverse aside), it appeals to collectors. Personally, I have a connection to it because it represents silver dollars which I collect. Having this coin compliments my collection. The goose would not in any way fit in my collection.

Anyone who ordered the 2oz, ordered it before we knew it would be hot. Most of us will keep it for our collections regardless of the few that are being sold on ebay. We didn't order it simply because it was hard to order because when we ordered, it wasn't hard for us. That is, the demand was there on day one. Demand is not created by price. Price is a result of demand (and supply).

I agree though, most of the teeth gnashing in this thread is because of those that didn't order or couldn't order (which was a real problem for some) and that has resulted in much of the discussion here to date. From my perspective, the ebay sales are somewhat interesting but they don't really affect me in anyway and I don't give them much thought.

2oz Silver coin with mintage of 2200 and appealing design - potentially "hot".
So not few, who ordered, did it 'just for the case it will be hot', and wish we could order more than 1 "just in case" ...

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the coin deserves long conversation, bearing recognizable and time proven design together with not really successful obverse, and being together with this **WHTF**.
And as the rule (majority of threads prove it), as far as any delay in the delivery - more talks about the item (GITD-1, Two Loons, BoC)

Sure, there are speculators who order what they think might be hot. That is always the case. Nothing new there.

But there are not 2200 active speculators. If all buyers were flippers, we'd see a couple thousand listing on ebay instead of just a few.

And if collectors had not ordered, it would not have sold out in a day.

My point is that the demand existed based on the coin. Not because it was scarce or because of any subsequent appreciation or ebay selling prices.

The demand was there day one. Primary evidence of that was the waiting list at the Mint.

In the microeconomic terms. price appreciation does not create demand. It is a consequence of demand > supply.

That said, there probably are a very few people who will want the coin simply because it is 'hot'. However, they are a minority IMO and their desire is a matter of psychology, not economics.

While I certainly can't see into a crystal ball, RCM's track record would indicate once they hit upon a good thing they just can't seem to give it up. So I'd speculate we may see in the future the exact same series offered to the general public, but in 1oz coins. As a collector of SDs, that'd be appealing to me because of compatible size.

If this does come to pass, what that might do to future collector appeal of the 2oz, who can say, the appeal of bigger is better may sustain it. Thoughts?

Possibly. But I think the ability to conveniently display collections is an important factor to many of us and frankly, oversized reproductions means to me they''d be relegated to sitting in their box somewhere as opposed to complimenting an otherwise semi organized/viewable SD collection. Not saying that's an issue to everyone but it's the reason I'm personally not interested in off sized NCLT, whether it be 2 or 5 oz.

Undoubtedly they will produce a gold plated version of the silver dollar, like the tribute to the Nickel, especially with Canada's 150th anniversary around the corner.

But nothing beats the detail on a 2 or 5 oz coin. You don't need to see a magnifying glass to see the detail.
I have both the 1 oz Nickel and 5 oz Nickel. Its the amazing to see the difference between them.