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Valued Member
United States
282 Posts |
Hi all, I have this 1820 in my collection and am trying to attribute the variety. There aren't many to choose from. Only 104 and 105 have square 2's with the knob, but this doesn't seem to match the 105. The 105 is supposed to have a very visibly crooked "5" in "50 C." and this one does not. The "0" and "C" look to far apart as well. I highly doubt it is a 104 based on what I paid although it does seem to match. And you can guess the grade as well while we're at it. It's in a straight NGC holder. Thanks.   I worked a bit with the pic to highlight the area in question:  Edited by syeb 07/18/2016 5:15 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18720 Posts |
the pics look overexposed and therefore give the coin the appearance of being cleaned.if it is in fact a good representation then VF details
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Valued Member
 United States
282 Posts |
Those were NGC's pics. I took these which are a bit better and the best I can do with my phone.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6370 Posts |
Looks freshly dipped. I would say VF details, cleaned.
But since it straight-graded, VF-30.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1629 Posts |
Looks like an O-104 to me, the T/I alignment and die crack through 50 C. and the arrow tips give it away. 
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Valued Member
 United States
282 Posts |
Aces, I completely missed rule # 1 - look at the T-I. So it looks like I may have gotten lucky with an R4 vs. R1. I wonder if it's worth sending it in for an attribution.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1959 Posts |
I wouldn't send it in. Consider yourself lucky it wasn't "detailed" from cleaning if the pics are at all a close representation of the way the coin actually looks.
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Valued Member
 United States
282 Posts |
I would not worry about it being detailed or otherwise downgraded if I send it to NGC in the slab. If that happens it would be covered by their guarantee and I would be made whole. I asked this exact question to NGC and received the answer from them. There is never a grading risk when sending to NGC in an NGC slab for a resubmission or reholder.
Under 10X the coin does not show any telltale signs of anything remotely resemblng a harsh cleaning although it most probably was dipped at one point.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Correct, no risk by re-submitting. I'll say VF25, possibly VF-30.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
18720 Posts |
new pics are much better. I see this in the VF30 details range due to a dip in the pool however slight it was.
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Valued Member
 United States
282 Posts |
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Valued Member
 United States
282 Posts |
To close out the thread - Final answer: It's a VF-25.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Looks cleaned, should have been a details grade.
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Valued Member
 United States
282 Posts |
Yes probably cleaned in some way, certainly dipped. But without the telltale hairlines and/or obvious scratches, it seems the TPGs consistently give Bust halves a pass as market acceptable.
Edited by syeb 07/20/2016 10:36 am
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