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Pillar of the Community
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Go to "coin programs/American Eagle Coins and you will see it listed next to the proof....
...or go to "What's new"
...or go to "coins/silver coins"
...or go to "product schedule" and under today's date it is there
No clue why you can't find it
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We are talking about what the mint calls an Uncirculated ASE. For this year at least it is a satin finish proof ASE. I say that because the only thing that would have prevented it from meeting the definition of a proof coin was that we had not had any indication that it was struck at least two times. At least for 2016 (and possibly in prior years) the mint has confirmed that the Uncirculated ASE is being struck multiple times. That means that we have two proof ASE coins this year, one utra-cameo and one full satin finish. You can find the ordering page here http://catalog.usmint.gov/american-...oins#start=1.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well I will have to disagree....this 2016 (and all other years) W is in no way a proof. It is a burnished version of the bullion coin and has a W mintmark.
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I agree with Foxwoods. The burnished W mint ASE's appear closer to the bullion coins than the proofs.
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Pillar of the Community
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I've seen some bullion coins that look like proofs (especially the 5 ounce pucks) but never a W ASE
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Foxwoods Man, the classic definition of a proof (paraphrased by me) is a coin struck on specially prepared planchets using specially prepared die, struck at least twice using other than mass production forces and below mass production speeds, then given special handling and individually (or in sets) packaged and sold (or given away in some cases). The 2016 Uncirculated ASE is struck on specially prepared planchets (the blanks are burnished by the mint, bullion blanks are used as received from suppliers), the die are given a special finish and then hardened so that the desired finish lass longer, they are struck at least twice at higher forces than bullion coins and at lower speeds and are individually handled and packaged. The only differences between the ultra cameo proofs and the "uncirculated" coins is that the blanks are burnished instead of polished and the finish applied to the die is different. There are many cases of satin and satin-like proof coins and there have also been fully brilliant proofs, proof is a process, not a finish. I realize that for many people, proof has become synonymous with the ultra-cameo finish but, for me at least, the classic definition holds. I personally like satin proofs, brilliant proofs, and ultra-cameo proofs pretty much equally. They are all (for the most part) a significant cut above circulation coins, which I also enjoy collecting.
Edited by clairhardesty 12/01/2016 3:24 pm
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I think I get where you are coming from but still disagree... I will use the Mint definition of proof vs. burnished (uncriculated) Quote: Proof Coins: Are the finest quality of coin produced by the United States Mint. The term "proof" refers to the coin's finish. Proof blanks are specially treated, hand-polished, and cleaned to ensure high-quality strikes. The blanks are then fed into presses fitted with specially polished dies and struck at least twice. The coins are then carefully packaged to showcase and preserve their exceptional finish. These coins:
Are struck at least twice, which gives the coin a frosted, sculpted foreground for a glamorous shine; defined, intricate design; and mirror-like background. Quote: Uncirculated Coins: Are hand-loaded into the coining press and struck on specially burnished blanks, yet have a soft, matt-like finish appearance. These coins:
Are made like circulating coins (which are used everyday as money), but with a special process that produces a brilliant finish. Quote: Circulating Coins: Are produced for circulations, but those sold directly by the United States Mint are never released to the Federal Reserve Bank. These coins: No evidence of multiple strikes for the W....
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Was going to pick this up but decided to wait until the annual dollar coin set comes out on Dec 14th. Hopefully the mint will extend the free shipping offer, if not then I'll save a little at least.
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Pillar of the Community
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I do like that Dollar Set...but I think you will have to pay for shipping...
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Pillar of the Community
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And the dollar set costs $5 more than the Uncirculated coin by itself (but does include 4 Uncirculated golden dollars) and does not include the nice clamshell box, still not a bad deal.
Foxwoods Man, the mint said that the uncirculated eagles would be struck multiple times (and that the proof would receive 3 strikes this year). I am having trouble finding the article (old brain not working well today) but I will post a link as soon as I find it.
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United States
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Ordered 2 last night,signed up for annual enrollment.Got one for me and one for my father.Order went through smooth and looks like the coin will be looking good!!
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Pillar of the Community
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Found it! Look at the very end of the article. It says that both the Proof and Uncirculated ASE coins are struck three times this year. This may only be because of the edge lettering, I don't know if the uncirculated coins have been struck more than once in previous years. "The Proof and Uncirculated versions both are struck three times on a Gräbener GMP 360 press under 225 tons of pressure per strike." http://www.coinworld.com/news/us-co...-16.all.html
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmmm...I see where you are coming from ..but...I found four other articles describing the minting process for burnished 2016-W ASE's with the edge lettering and none mention the multiple strikes. Add this to the Mint's description and I would lean towards the CoinWorld article being incorrect. ..and, just sayin', even IF there were multiple strikes they would still not be proofs in the eyes of those who decide these things.... PCGS designates them SP NGC uses MS Mint says uncirculated Edited to add: from a CoinNews article today: Quote: The new strike marks the thirtieth year since the inaugural release of the series and so this edition has a special "30th ANNIVERSARY" edge inscription. The lettered edge replaces the standard reeded treatment, for this year only. Congress directed the anniversary inscription as part of the larger FAST Act which was signed into law last year.
Unchanged from the past, each coin is produced to an uncirculated finish from 1.000 troy ounce of 99.9% fine silver
Edited by Foxwoods Man 12/02/2016 10:34 am
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Valued Member
United States
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thanks for the replies and have ordered mine.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Two questions out of curiousity: 1. Anybody order 3 or more and get the free promo shipping offer? 2. How do you feel about the $44.95 issue price?
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