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2016 ND Quarter - Dlam Or Strike Through?

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Now that one's interesting. Can't really tell, need better clearer pictures, w/ focus & lighting for me to tell. Something's going on there but just could be PMD.

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Agree...need better pics. Also, please try to orient/rotate the pics properly to make it easier to check them out.
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The first image looks like something was spilled on coin and the reside was moved a bit. But this is not a lamination issue, but more of the residue moved around a bit.
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The second image show more the classic incuse machine damage that is so common on the ATB Quarters.

Forgot the image....
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Okay, here are 3 additional pics taken with another camera...

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I am not sure what would have spilled on it to do the metal damage present, like an acid?

There is no discoloration just metal damage...really odd it happened before the mint mark was applied because it runs under the "D", the sepia helps define the peaks and valleys of the lines better for me...
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Sometimes milk, glue, finger nail polished, sugared drinks, make up and what else happens during circulation.
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It is really an interesting find...
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Pretty common. Stuff gets on change and it usually stays there until it wears off. (unless someone does remove it)
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Here is the closest I can get to showing there is underlying metal damage (see arrows indicating the sides of the depression and the "T" is undamaged.

If something was spilled on it that could eat away the metal, it would have eaten away the "T" also, but the "T" is undamaged and stamped over the damage.

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On your coin nothing is eaten away. On the letters on 'WE' above, that is from Die Deterioration. (die wear). On the single squeeze dies the devices are not real tall. So when they start to wear it is usually on the side closest to the rim. The reason the 'T' isn't affected is because the field is not open beside it. Some how the coin contact missed that device also. The others are flattened a bit on the tops. The coin isn't damaged. It just has a coating of something on the coin and the devices are wearing off the top of the substance first. The coin is a spender. Nothing of premium on it. But the real value is knowing what is going on with this coin and then the next time you see it, you know it and move on to the next coin.
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Well coop I respect the fact you are the expert on coins. I don't have to be right, but I am holding the coin and can clearly see the metal is eaten away as can others here. Could be the pics I sent I am still working on getting the lighting and focus right.

Maybe I am not getting what you are saying but clearly the metal is eaten away UNDER the "T" without affecting it. There are 3 distinct layers visible. Appears to me when the letters were added the metal underneath fractured under the pressure and came off in layers (layman's interpretation of what it looks like).

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If what you say is true the coin would be eaten away including the "T", How do explain the pristine "T" when the other letters near it are affected? Is this an ego thing? Are you never mistaken?

Including a "spill" coin for comparison, note rounded shape of the spill, compared to irregular and gouged multiple layers of missing metal.

I guess we will disagree on the coin but I agree you know your stuff on coins. Thanks for all your help.

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