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New Member
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Hi all, Looking to help out my brother in law back in the Uk , recently found a Gold Antoninus Quintarius(think thats what it is maybe Quinari ) while out metal detecting. What makes it unique is the Mars descending on the reverse .We can only find one other reference going back to a Sotherby Auction in the 1880's . Any advice on possible worth or external links to show a similar coin would be appreciated.   *** Edited by Staff to crop images. Please crop images before uploading. If you do not have software to do this you can use the free image optimizer. ****** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***Edited by Budokai1
09/18/2017 4:42 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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No help, but I would say us poor US detector hunters get ill when we see 2000 year old gold being found in the field.  |
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New Member
 Canada
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We lived in the Uk and passed Hadrians wall almost weekly. Never once thought to look.. We do now though...Really hoping for some ardent collector in the US who would have some inkling as we are drawing a blank.
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Moderator
 United States
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 to the community From the image the coin appears genuine, but lets see what others have to say. Did your brother in law report the find to the Government? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That is quite a coin to make an entrance with! You are correct, I couldn't find a match on Wildwinds.com or acsearch.info. It could be an unpublished and previously unknown aureus; those do come up every once in a great while. If that is the case, I hate to say it, but you and your brother ought to inform the authorities. This could be a major find, and thankfully the UK will compensate you both reasonably well for the discovery. |
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United States
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OK, I found a reference to it. The coin is an Aureus. The reverse is Mars on left facing right holding spear and shield. He is facing Rhea Sylvia reclining and facing left. The coin is not in RIC, but is referenced in Calico #1688.
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Valued Member
Canada
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It has the same obverse / reverse on this as. couldn't find any other aureus with the same design. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2139628from the description of a Gallienus AR Antoninianus with the same reverse scene "This scene, while well attested in surviving Roman artwork, occurs only one other time in the entirety of the vast Roman coinage series, on an As of Antoninus Pius (see lot 822); a medallion of Faustina Senior, clearly not intended for monetary use, also bears the type, and was probably created around the same time." https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3712347 |
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New Member
Canada
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Thank you all for the information,echoing what we have managed to find. He is seeing the local coroner who apparently reports and catalogs for the government on Thursday.The fact that we can only find bronze/silver examples certainly makes it a interesting piece.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Outside my area of collecting. Just to see what others think.
1) The surfaces look a bit soapy to me. Lacking the detail you'd expect to see on a struck coin.
2) The portrait style looks a bit off to my eyes.
I'm curious what the edges look like. Do they appear to be smoothed at all from possibly filing?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I can't really help but good luck anyway, its a good story if it does turn out to be correct, imagine who would have dropped it.
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New Member
Canada
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Edited by Budokai1
09/19/2017 3:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As Ron said, your coin is an Aureus. It is both listed and illustrated in the BMCRE as #253 for Antoninus Pius (p. 39) (Plate 6, #14) with the reverse legend: TRIB POT COSIII. It is from the COSIII period (140-144) of obverse type C1, which refers to the draped, bare headed bust facing right, and the inscription: ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP which was used in this period only when the COSIII was on the reverse.
An aureus of Antoninus Pius with this reverse type and inscription is listed in RIC as #99 (p37) but the listing mixes obverse types and does not discriminate the use of the PP ending for the obverse legend as is done by the British Museum catalog as noted above. The listing irrespective of type is rated as R2 in rarity, which for volume III is very rare.
Your coin is without doubt genuine and VERY desirable. It is not a type that would be commonly reproduced. Congratulations on recovering it. But if the coroner's office figures all this out, then I suspect they will arrange to take possession. Nonetheless, the payoff should be quite handsome.
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09/19/2017 3:03 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So... did your friend do a gold dance? These guys want to know.  |
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Canada
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Coroner wasn't there this week. So the wait goes on, will update when we get more information.
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