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I Have A Question Or Two Regarding The Presidential $1 Coinage

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 Posted 02/19/2018  6:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
What year was inscription of 'IN GOD WE TRUST' removed from the obverse of coin & placed on the rim? Or vise-versa
Removed from rim and placed on obverse?
And why?
(Just my Coinvirgin curiosity working Overtime? )

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That motto was on the edge in 2007 and 2008. It was moved to the obverse starting in 2009 through an act of Congress because they did not think God was given enough exposure.
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 Posted 02/19/2018  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ckrakowski to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And when it happened I believe it became to cluttered and made the words to small to read and they became ugly.
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 Posted 02/19/2018  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinvirgin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seriously? An act of Congress?
Has it had an effect on the value of the coins with the motto on the rim?
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There is a premium for those coins without any edge lettering (those are considered mint errors), but there's no added value just for where the motto is located.

And yes, it was in HR 2674, which also provided an extension to the State Quarters program for DC and the territories.
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02/19/2018 9:39 pm
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The decision to put the date, mintmark and mottos on the edge of the NA dollars and the President dollars was made so the designs would be less cluttered and larger images could be used. Unfortunately rumors started and expounded on by a lot of uninformed and religiously motivated non-collectors were told that In God We Trust "had been removed from our nations coinage, where it has been since the beginning of the country." Which was two lies for the price of one. the motto was still there, and it has NOT always appeared on our coins. But like most such people, facts would not sway them and they kept complaining. So as Alpha said HR 2674 mved the motto from the edge of the coin to the obverse. It required an Act of Congress to do so because that constituted a change in the design of the coin, and under the Act of 1890 the designs or our coins may not be changed any oftener than every 25 years except by act of Congress.
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Having a motto on the edge was a tradition from the good old days. I think besides "religiously motivated non-collectors" there were politically motivated interest groups anxious to spread rumors and fear about government and God. Taking advantage of this they were bearing false witness which is prohibited by the Good Book. Now, I like a motto on the edge, because that is a special place on a coin. The older classic coins with a motto on the edge are really neat! Ask to see one at the next coin show near you or at a coin dealer's shop.
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02/22/2018 07:25 am
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