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How Far Back Can We Go? Fourth Edition! Ended At 1461 Waiting On 1460 C. E. (A. H. 864)

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1534 -- Poland/Gdansk, 1 groschen:

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Also Poland, same portrait, but Polish Prussia I think I've read the mint was in Torun?):
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A question about the legend on these Polish coins of the mid-1530s.
Earlier in the thread, we discussed how the allegiance of Prussia changed from HRE to Poland around 1525.

So on the Sigismund I coins we see REX PO DO TOCI PRUSSIE.
The REX PO is easy (King of Poland). I assume DO is short for DOMINUS (Lord of ...).

What is TOCI?
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DO TOCI PRUSSIE :maybe sovereign of all Prussia , see :https://www.coingallery.de/KarlV/Polen_E.htm . albert
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Thank you! Also an excellent reference on the coinage of this king.

It mentions the "Renaissance" portrait of Sigismund starting in 1528. I wonder if any of the collectors of medievals who post on this thread have earlier coins (other countries) with this type of portrait? With or without a date.
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Here is my Hungarian Denar dated 1534 AD (still Huszar 935):


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1533 -- Hungary, 1 denar:

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I've got a sparse patch for the next decade. Got outbid recently on a nice lot of Polish groszy that covered 1527-32
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Quote:
I wonder if any of the collectors of medievals who post on this thread have earlier coins (other countries) with this type of portrait? With or without a date.


Looks like the geographic focus of my OFEY collection is about to shift from Poland to Lithuania. I can look in Kopicki for you though.

For the moment, here is another Hungarian Denar (dated 1553 AD):

How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Fourth-Edition!-Ended-At-1461-Waiting-On-1460-C.-E.-A.-H.-864
How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Fourth-Edition!-Ended-At-1461-Waiting-On-1460-C.-E.-A.-H.-864
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just found out I can still contribute once more

1533 copper "Rechenpfennig" from Thomas Beheim Appel IV,1762

OBV RATHPHENNIG D OSTR RAC, Coat of arms Bohemen-Hungary
REV ES WIRT/ALS GLEICH/ MDXXXIII, Urns with flames, sandglass


time slipping backwards


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Love those urns with flickering flames!
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Also, is that our first coin with ROman numerals for the date?

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1532 -- Hungary, 1 denar:

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Here is a uniface 2 Pfennig from the German Bishopric of Passau dated 1532 AD (attributed as Schulten 2644 in addition to being in Krause).


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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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