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1913 Liberty Head Nickle

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 Posted 06/27/2012  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NYBrian84 to your friends list


The 3 appeared off to me at first glance, too. Better pictures are definitely needed.

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 Posted 06/27/2012  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The_Duke to your friends list
It looks altered.

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 Posted 06/27/2012  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Blowing up that image is good enough. The 3 is completely wrong. It isn't even as good as the commonly seen altered 1910's with the 0 altered to a 3.


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I'm pretty sure all the 1913 Liberty nickels are accounted for, finding a new one would be earth shaking

You can't say they are all accounted for because there was no record of how many were made. But all five known pieces are accounted for. After 92 years it isn't too likely that a sixth one will appear. But the fourth known 1853-O no arrows or rays half dollar just recently showed up. First new specimen in 105 years. So never say never.
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 Posted 06/27/2012  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mackwork to your friends list
That 3 clinches it - very poorly altered. Darn - I was hoping it had a better chance of being authentic!
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 Posted 06/27/2012  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Remember the Chinese have faked this one also.

Here is the pic of the one Big Tree Factory was making and selling on ebay a few years ago (before getting kicked off):


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and here is a legit one from PCGS


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Yes - yours is worn and the fake above is not worn looking. But the Chinese were smart and also made worn looking coins.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
Yeah, thats a really bad attempt. You would think a little more effort would have been made for something that only 5 of exist.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  04:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add donkrx to your friends list
The stars always seem to show some problems in those Chinese fakes.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Almost looks like a tapered with 1918 but that too would be worth a lot since never made at all.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list
@donkrx, I was just thinking how wonkey the stars looked. Thanks for posting the comparison pictures so I know what to look for...oh yeah, won't happen in my lifetime!

Skinny three for the OP, must have gone on a diet.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tommy1 to your friends list
There are some interesting and helpful responses concerning this coin. However after close examination of the 3 it still looks authentic to me. There is dirt inside the curls that is causing some obstruction to a clearer view. I will take another picture for all to view. As well as a picture of the back side of the coin.

I do appreciate the responses to my inquiry.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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There is dirt inside the curls that is causing some obstruction to a clearer view.

Tommy, you really do not have to worry about the inside of the three to see this is not a real one.

Instead, look at the ends of the curves of the 3 on the real one and you will see a well defined ball. The 3 on yours does not have these. It is a different font altogether. This means, unfortunately, yours cannot be real.

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Also take a look at the outside of the curves on the back of the 3. They are the wrong shape altogether. I wish, for your sake, this was a real one,,, but it cannot be.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list
If you think it is real, then you can send it to a TPG for authentication (if it is authentic). They will tell you if it is real or not.
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 Posted 06/28/2012  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
You have received the expert opinions of many of the best numismatic experts on this site ... and I agree with all the opinions that this coin is a doctored example and not authentic.

If you truly believe this coin is authentic ... then you can of course spend some money to send it in for a TPG opinion ... which will render the same verdict we have all been telling you.

This is a crude fake of a 1913 Liberty nickel ... the obvious manipulation of the last date digit is apparent even from the limited quality photos ... and you would be well served IMHO to limit your losses and accept this coin for what is is.

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 Posted 06/29/2012  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TexasJack to your friends list
The reverse curvature of the 3 on this coin is not aligned with the elongated 3 of a certified specimen. These counterfeits are somewhat close, but as you review more in-depth images at tight magnification, you can see the subtle difference, which in some cases of sold counterfeits, account for big money. Always review authenticated coins for subtle variations and compare these variations to subject coins you may be interested in purchasing. Good Luck.
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 Posted 06/29/2012  03:19 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
3 is altered for sure but, Welcome to the CCF!
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