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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: It's my understanding that the expedient of holing detected fakes was primarily a bank practice. [quote]wouldn't the bank then take them out of circulation anyway? [quote]Holes were also drilled to see if a suspected counterfeit had a copper or base metal core, so sometimes these aren't all the way through.
Sounds plausible.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Lucky
Drilling a hold was NOT an indicator of a fake.
It was very commonly done in the 19th century.
I believe the coin is real.
Not the look of a contemporary fake.
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Pillar of the Community
Korea, Republic Of
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 Precisely. I agree with Treashunt.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I've heard it was common practice in the old days to hammer a coin on the door for good luck or something. I've also read that someplace, and I'd guess that was done most often with cents. When I was young, that had taken the form of setting a penny into concrete. However, I'll stand by my remarks that the holing of this coin raises my suspicions as to its authenticity, and I do see some other things about it that reinforces that impression. We really need a weight here, it's a vital diagnostic for exposing a contemporary counterfeit.
Colligo ergo sum
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Over the years, I've seen well over fifty counterfeit Bust half dollars; this, with but one having been holed. Many of them were deeply scratched, typically with an X. This was a far easier method to warn handlers of these pieces. I've never heard or read of holes being drilled to indicate a counterfeit. I've seen many a genuine Bust half, bearing a hole. I have read about this being done in the mid-nineteenth century, that one might string a coin around the neck. Many a pair of pants back then lacked pockets, and even a holed coin had its specie value.
Given the overall scarcity of counterfeit Bust halves in comparison to genuine specimens, I'm in the genuine camp on this piece, until it's proven otherwise.
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Pillar of the Community
Korea, Republic Of
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 I've never heard of the cancellation of coins by holing until now. Details point to genuine. I am in the genuine camp, too.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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To me it just looks like a nice AU coin that some horrendously evil (kidding, of course) soul took a drill to. I see bounds of luster and sharp details that are not indicative of a counterfeit coin. If you're really curious, look at the inside of the hole as see what the coins is made of. It wouldn't hurt.
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New Member
United States
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One theory I have as to the holed coins is that people put them on a stringer to keep them together.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Have you sent pictures of this to the Contemporary Counterfeit Capped Bust Half Collectors Club? They might be able to nail down an id if in fact it is a contemporary counterfeit. http://www.cccbhcc.com/-MV
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I see no mention of a lettered edge, does pre-1836 counterfeit Halves also have lettered edges?
SORRY, every time I post a comment from my tablet and hit the back button to escape, my reply keeps posting multiple times and I have to jump on the ole laptop to delete the other posts...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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deleted... Mental Note; CCF is not tablet friendly 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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HMMM ... you guys are lost ... about two years ago I wrote to some leading authorities? of the CCBH group indicating I had some metallurgical additions/corrections to the series as there are MULTIPLE ERRORS in the alloy classifications ... they never followed up ... after Davignon faded away so has the control of this CC group ...
John Lorenzo United States
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