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Not sure what PCI had to say but I call it MS63+ possibly MS64. The cheek is a bit dark in the photo making it difficult to accurately grade it. As far as the VAM number, from this distance I can tell it's a C3 reverse, normal slanted date position which puts it into the 90 percentile.
Edited by dave700x 05/18/2015 7:11 pm
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 with Dave700x right call at MS64 by PCI but probably as a MS63+ in a current top tier TPG today.
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I'm also unfamiliar with PCI.
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Call for Conder101 at the front desk.
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Pci is... oh wait, my headache is coming back thinking about how to explain them 
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Just looked at the website, and I understand what you mean. Here is a quote from the homepage: "PCI is your premiere coin grading service for authenticating and grading your rare coin assets."  They also had 4 identical images of the exact same coin, 2012 ASE MS-70.
Edited by Numisma 05/18/2015 9:00 pm
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Quote: What is PCI? This site: http://www.sampleslabs.com/ might help, there are a lot of different slabbing companies, many that are now long gone, most are not that reputable. PCGS, NGC, ANACS, SEGS, ICG, PCI are the ones that usually get listed in the good to okay category. The rest not so much.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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PCI has a long and convoluted history as a TPG. They were originally quite good, on a par with any of the competition. The slabs you want - the one brenpickle is describing - have 10-digit serials, green labels (red for Details coins) and are lettered in Futura-style type with perfectly round zeros and O's as in the first image pictured at the k6az link. *That* PCI might have called this a 64, which is where it belongs. Numerous hints tell me it's a Mint State coin.
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I'm guessing that PCI graded it 62 and that's just about where it would be graded at today.
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Most were close or right on. PCI called her a MS62. I think she is a solid 63 with a shoot at 64, but their is no spread on this date for those grades to make regrading it worth it. I was wondering when it comes to coins like this that are undergraded by todays standards, how is the best way to sell them. Most dealers I have encountered see the 62 on the slab and offer that for it. Since this is a PCI slab, on ebay you can not list the grade in title, so would it bring full 64 value there or would people be nervous. Do you think ebay would have enough educated bidders that this would get to where it should be at value wise. How would you sell it, if it was your coin? Just something I had been thinking of. 
Edited by brenpickle 05/20/2015 9:57 pm
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I buy these slabs also, tend to find the pricing grouped together no matter if its a gold slab or the old green ones. Most dealers I know look at PCI as a damaged brand, which is good for me when they have PCI in their inventory. I don't believe there is a way to really bump up the sales price on something like this less getting it slabbed by an NGC or PCGS...perhaps ANACS. I currently have about 2 PCGS boxes full of these old PCI holders, each one would either cross or gain a point or two based on todays standards.
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