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Bedrock of the Community
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As a kid I always liked these and wanted one. I have yet to fulfill that dream. I came close to buying one a few years ago at my LCS, but decided to stick to the coin projects at hand first. Now I keep wondering why I did not pull the trigger! Can someone educate me as to why the one in this ebay auction is slabbed without saying it was cleaned? To my untrained eye it looks whizzed with the parallel lines all over the front: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1862-LIBERT...AOSwMmBVmrHg Beautiful nonetheless - also out of my price range.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Seated dollars are a great but pricey series for those of us of modest means. Those looking at Seated coinage that is less expensive should consider the dimes. CCF has a resident expert in Seated dimes (dsfreeworld) and these small coins offer a lot of history for (usually) not a lot of money.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Those lines are all parallel, do not cross the devices, and appear to be incuse, making them die polishing lines - not a defect. On a cleaned coin, the lines would usually not be parallel, and would cover the portrait, legend, date, etc., not just the fields.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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I thought it was the rare, 1862 "burnished" Seated Liberty dollar from the West Point Mint. Jack  On a serious note: paralyse, you have an amazing depth of knowledge. I was ready to agree with Earle42, that it looked like it had been attacked by a Dremel tool, deliberately avoiding the portrait, legend, date, etc. Impressive knowledge. Good job.
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You will also notice the parallel lines are inside the protected areas of the coin such as inside the loops of the 8, but are not on the devices themselves. There is no way you could do something to the coin create those lines and get them into those small protected areas and not have them show on the devices themselves. But a linear polishing of the die face would produce those lines on ALL the field areas without getting on the devices.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks to all of those who larned me so I is now better edumacated  Polishing marks...lines not being across the devices...makes a lot of sense. CCF is an amazing place 
How much squash could a Sasquatch squash if a Sasquatch would squash squash? Download and read: Grading the graders Costly TPG ineptitude and No FG Kennedy halveshttps://ln5.sync.com/dl/7ca91bdd0/w...i3b-rbj9fir2
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the appearance of the slightly proof like devices over the mirrors also lend credibility to the fact the dies were polished in a later stage of use.
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I have read about the die polishing lines on the 1862's, and think they account for some of what I see on my 1862. These lines puzzled me for years until I researched the issue a bit further. The photos do not capture them well, but the planchet does have a series of parallels lines. I think the coin was dipped and/or lightly cleaned as well, however. A nice series to collect, but definitely agree, they are difficult to find absolutely problem free.  
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Loving the strike on your coin, GERMANICVS. 
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Wow! Love that dollar. 
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Thank you, TypeCoin971793 and buck!
These large coins are my favorite seated types as well.
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I hope to have two for my 7070 some day. If only they could be that nice. 
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United States
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GERMANICVS - That is a beautiful coin. We should all be so lucky to own one this pretty! As you look at what's available among raw Seated Liberty dollars (especially on ebay), your coin really stands out. The die polishing marks don't take much away from its GLORY, and because of the known issues of the '62 mintage, it's just part of the coins' story. Jack
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