Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsJoin Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Fake Cutting Errors From Genuine, Low Serial Number $2. Star Sheet On Ebay.

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 17 / Views: 4,304Next Topic Page 2 of 2
Pillar of the Community
United States
1358 Posts
 Posted 06/12/2016  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsearcher83 to your friends list
Interesting how the first link is listed as a "False cutting error" while the second link is not.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/12/2016  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
The seller made revisions to the listing 2 hours AFTER I posted this..

There was no mention of "False" listed it the Title or Description when I posted this..

Now I'm curious if the seller is a CCF member!
Edited by Broken-Coin
06/12/2016 10:39 pm
Pillar of the Community
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/12/2016  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
I have the unedited Title in my email showing "False" not listed.. Tomorrow I will copy & paste it here from my laptop (unable to do it from my tablet)..
Pillar of the Community
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/13/2016  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
Note; The "#9734" are the "STARS" posted in the title..


Quote:

#9734;#9734;1976#9734;#9734; $2 DOLLAR (ATLANTA) #9734;STAR#9734; NOTE FALSE MISCUT GEM UNC NUMBERS F00714563*


Below is the Original item Title at time of posting this thread (was edited 2 hours after posting on CCF);


Quote:
Miscut #9734;#9734;1976#9734;#9734; $2 Dollar Atlanta #9734;#9734;star#9734;#9734; Note Gem UNC Numbers F00714563 | eBay

Edited by Broken-Coin
06/13/2016 11:29 am
Pillar of the Community
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 06/13/2016  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
I've bought from Bill before (Bills Hobby Shop) and after reading this thread, I sent him a message saying that I was very disappointed in this and other listings, and would not ever buy from him again. He didn't reply, but he did revise the wording.
Edited by SteveInTampa
06/13/2016 4:30 pm
Bedrock of the Community
Learn More...
United States
12857 Posts
 Posted 06/13/2016  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
"False Miscut"

Still not exactly clear and potentially misleading.

"Deliberate Miscut" would be a better choice of words, IMO...
Pillar of the Community
United States
7641 Posts
 Posted 06/13/2016  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
This Seller (BillsHobbyShop) has been listing and selling this JUNK for months on ebay. I got tired of reporting it as ebay never seemed to do anything to stop it.

Hope y'all have better luck getting them to do something.
New Member
United States
2 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2016  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quique32 to your friends list
Hi I'm new in this forum. Can someone help I just bought this bill and I want to know what people think thanks

Fake-Cutting-Errors-From-Genuine,-Low-Serial-Number-$2.-Star-Sheet-On-Ebay.
Pillar of the Community
United States
4637 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2016  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list
The 2006 $1 Philly note, shown above, is a post BEP, fake, poorly cut error. Cut from a sheet. It is not a legitimate error note. I hope you didn't pay more than a dollar.
Pillar of the Community
United States
7641 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2016  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
What do I think?

I think you got yourself a fake, false, faux homemade cutting error similar to what is being sold on ebay from the notorious "bills_hobby_shop" (mentioned in this thread) and others like him.

Buying this stuff just enables those sellers to create more "errors" just like it.

Return it and get your money back.
Pillar of the Community
United States
4409 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2016  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
Quique32

Unfortunately, you have a fake cutting error made outside the BEP by an unscrupulous person using an uncut sheet.

The serial number is above 96,000,000 and the C-C block from Series 2009 was only available from the BEP store.

http://www.uspapermoney.info/general/uncut.html

-MV
New Member
United States
2 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2016  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Quique32 to your friends list
Thanks everyone for the info I'm just gonna hang it on the wall . I really appreciate it
Pillar of the Community
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/17/2016  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
With all the fake cutting errors on ebay, when you come across a genuine one and send it to PMG, they have zero knowledge of what a real cutting error looks like, and sends it back ungraded..

I couldn't believe so-called currency experts could NOT confirm this...

It had taken multiple calls & emails to advise them the BEP released ZERO uncut sheets from this Block, let alone the serial number was from Run #7 and not above 96000000...

I thought I had problems with PMG on this note, you should see the hack job they did on my recent (and last) submission, 2 Pakistan 1000 Rupee double serial number errors (1 with 2 different Prefixes)..

I had to make corrections on both holders, and sent a not so nice email saying I'm glad I had PMG Holder my bank of England triple serial number error back in 2006, as their graders today could have never holdered that note..

I did mention I should have submitted the Pakistan errors back in 2007 when I first purchased them..



Fake-Cutting-Errors-From-Genuine,-Low-Serial-Number-$2.-Star-Sheet-On-Ebay.

Fake-Cutting-Errors-From-Genuine,-Low-Serial-Number-$2.-Star-Sheet-On-Ebay.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/22/2016  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
I see the seller sold both fake cutting errors to two different bidders..

Since these can pass as genuine cutting errors if submitted separately, and if the graders are not aware the BEP released Low Serial Number Star Sheets to the public, I feel I'll have to contact PMG and advise them that a ebay seller sold both as cutting errors..

Both notes are separated by one plate Position, and the seller being creative, decided to make 2 different cutting types (Horizontal & Vertical), and this is proof positive the errors are fakes..


With all the problems I have had with PMG getting my genuine cutting error holdered, the last thing I want to see is one of these fakes passing the verification test via Production Serial Number by PMG and then being holdered..

Should that happen, only those reading this thread will know the back story on why they are fake cutting errors..
Pillar of the Community
United States
1812 Posts
 Posted 06/28/2016  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broken-Coin to your friends list
I charted the sheet serial numbers, along with both fake cutting errors, and provided everything to PMG..

Had the person that cut this, done so with precision (and only one type of error) it could have passed both the Production Run & Serial Number confirmation for regular circulation error notes..

Fake-Cutting-Errors-From-Genuine,-Low-Serial-Number-$2.-Star-Sheet-On-Ebay.
Page 2 of 2   Previous TopicReplies: 17 / Views: 4,304Next Topic Page 2 of 2
First Page  Showing last 15 replies.
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.34 seconds to rattle this change. Forums