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Which Book(S) Should I Get For Starting To Collect Canadian Colonial Coins?

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 Posted 02/13/2017  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
There is some guy name Lorenzo coming out with a new book around May 2017 with a 100 page chapter on Canadian Blacksmiths ... it should shake up a few people. <VVBG>.

Not to worry you will here about it soon enough ...
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 Posted 02/13/2017  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Will CCF members be able to get a signed copy?
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 Posted 02/14/2017  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
Will probably purchase a dozen or so then sell on E-Bay as buy-it-now at same Amazon Price or something. Signed.

Who knows hopefully if still alive I can make Warren Baker proud of these pages. Starting corresponding seriously with Warren on the connection of the COunterfeit 2 Reales and their association with Blacksmiths and BL-15's around 1996 then another numismatic Canadian researcher and giant IMO emerged ... Wayne Jacobs ... he starting corresponding with me shortly thereafter - it was strange and you can quote me ... when Jacobs contacted me INITIALLY in the 1990's he thought Charlton was totally backwards with the Blacksmiths and he told me his comments were never to be printed at the time (in the 1990's) ... as time went on his observations concurred with mine on many things ... I include an Appendix from Gord Nichols and his dismissal of Wood 42, Wood 36 is an English cast retrograde (DELIST IT!) and these are INTENTIONAL George II head left portraits facing this way intentionally BUT with George III caricatures! Start sharpening your PENS ... CANADA. The time has come!
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 Posted 02/14/2017  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
Save one for me... I'd like to learn a lot more about tokens esp blacksmith tokens
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 Posted 02/15/2017  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Check NumisCat's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisCat to your friends list
I just picked up a copy of Canadian Tokens and Medals, a 1974 anthology by A.D. Hoch. A fantastic reference for early material if you can find one. All kinds of articles by McLachlan, Courteau, Ferguson, Bowman, etc.
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 Posted 02/15/2017  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list

Hoch's Anthology is a tremendous work and highly recommended for
any serious inquiry concerning Canadian Colonial Tokens. But the
query of this thread was for more general basic tools. I have
several copies of Hoch's Anthology.

And Breton's work is also valuable as it includes many tokens not
listed in the aforementioned works. And Dr. Courteau has several
other works not included in Hoch's.

I all depends on how far one wants to dig.

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 Posted 02/15/2017  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Check 1960NYGiants's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1960NYGiants to your friends list
I picked up a nice little book by W.J. (Bill) Stanley off of ebay recently titled "2017 Breton Tokens. It is a compilation of prices achieved for Breton tokens in CAD and some USD. It is not all inclusive but fairly up to date.

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 Posted 02/16/2017  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list
1960NYGiants

The 2017 Breton sounds like a worthwhile item.
Many of the Breton's are elusive. I have several
hundred, but they are not my primary interest.

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 Posted 02/16/2017  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list
If you can find a copy of this its a good guide. I got this in 1959 while in high school Helped me start collecting Canadian coins.

A Guide Book
of..

Canadian Coins,
Currency & Tokens

First Edition

Catalogue and Price List from 1700-1959 AD

Copyright 1959 by

Canadian Numismatic Publishing Institute
Winnipeg, Canada

It covers tokens I never heard of before. From all provinces and unlisted tokens etc.

Its has been the best help to me since I got it.
Wish the Prices were the Same as then. Unc 1948 dollar was $90

Gary
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 Posted 02/21/2017  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
Yes that Hoch's Anthology is a BIG SURPRISE - IMO - I guess you don't expect that level of research by looking at its simple covers - TREMENDOUS.

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 Posted 03/03/2017  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list
thank you all for the advice, I ended up buying 2 of haxbys books(1 for my brother) I must admit its a very interesting book and very well laid out, as far as the charlton book is there more coins listed in it or should I stick with what I have for now? thanks again
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 Posted 03/03/2017  8:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialtokens to your friends list
The identification nomenclature used by Charlton has been widely accepted by the numismatic community.
The Charlton work is necessary for being able to communicate in the same language as most collectors.

One can never have enough tools to work with. How many hammers does a carpenter have, when only one is
really necessary. Yes, one can break a boulder with a tac hammer and one can use a sledge hammer to set
a tac or finishing nail. Dependent upon the tasks, certain tools are more efficient than others.

Buy the book and STUDY the book before venturing into the new adventure.

doug
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 Posted 03/04/2017  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
the Charlton is definitely worth picking up. I have both, but the Charlton probably gets used the most.
The Haxby is nice as it also covers decimal issues as well.

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 Posted 03/04/2017  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
gidjit .. since you borrowed them to read from me, I would suggest the Turner books on large cents. For anyone that is even vaguely interested in the early production of coins for Canada, you should get the first one on the 1858 cents. It gives a complete discourse and explanation of the minting process at the time and all the hoops that had to be jumped through at the time. You can never understand the meaning and cause of a variety unless you are familiar with the book, as well as the "Dies and Diadems" book later on.
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 Posted 03/04/2017  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
As Okie has said many times here..

"get the Rob Turner books..They're "a must" for any serious Vicky cent collector..

I wear white gloves when I handle his books, they are so detailed and appreciated by me..but then again,..I'm a nerdy coin collector..
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