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1978 Canada 1 Cent DDO And Die Chip. Pleas Helps To ID

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 Posted 06/13/2018  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bate to your friends list
Your answer this time is not convincing me "E n V" It is not shelflike look at the diviced at the notches and how rounded the dd on the dot. Give me something else more concrete. Those letters very thin so the DD is clearly separated at the notches.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  9:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Roro57 to your friends list
The die chip at the edge of the eye and possibly at the edge of the mouth are nice finds, you can see on Coinsandcanada.com site (Hope this is ok) that the years 1978 and 1979 are well known for double dates not Doubled Dies but I think they are just DDD or MD. I think you might see this in other areas on the coin. They are still collectible but many only collect higher grades. If I am wrong on any point my apologies.
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 Posted 06/13/2018  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Optimist-numismatist to your friends list
Doesn't look like hub doubling to me. It probably is Jud MD, if you think MD is common on Lincoln cents, Canadian cents will maybe give them a run for their money.

1960s and 1970s Canada cents are notorious for MD and die shifts.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
No DDO but cool looking die chip at the eye.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
The R or REGINA is most intriguing, but the photos need to be magnified to come to any conclusion....

The 1977-1979 Canadian 1-cent coins are notorious for Die Deterioration Doubling and over polishing of the dies... without better photos, I cannot confirm if it is a doubled die.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bate to your friends list
This pic is the best I could get SPP-Ottawa

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 Posted 06/14/2018  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontCollector to your friends list
Nice close-up shot!

It looks like MD to me.
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 Posted 06/14/2018  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uruman to your friends list
it's md to me too
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 Posted 06/15/2018  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I vote for severe Die Deterioration Doubling... the doubled elements are enlarged... if it was Machine Doubling (MD) then I might expect to see the beads doubled as well.

However, I digress, I would need to see a mint state example, to be sure...
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 Posted 06/15/2018  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bate to your friends list
Look at the between the beads look like the old line there..the bump shadow is there between the new beads
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 Posted 06/15/2018  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
It looks like Die Deterioration to me. The "relief varies as to which direction .. if it was machine they would mostly be the same. Definitely not DDO'
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 Posted 06/16/2018  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bate to your friends list
Just found this from Mr.COOP. I think this 1978 Canada cent is fall into this catergory " Flat Doubling"
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 Posted 06/16/2018  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list
Nope. Flat field doubling happens on coins that are struck twice, and for some reason, also on nickel dollars. What I see here (and has been mentioned to you by SPP, the expert on errors) is Die Deterioration Doubling. Enlarged doubling in an outward direction is a tell-tale sign.
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 Posted 06/16/2018  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bate to your friends list
Thanks for your reply Altaira...
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 Posted 06/16/2018  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
yes, there is no doubling on the beads on your coin..
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