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Would You Pay Extra For An ASE In A Special TPG Holder

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 Posted 05/24/2019  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andy Herkimer to your friends list
The OP did not mention which ASE, proof and burnished are not bullion coins.
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 Posted 05/24/2019  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Generally no (and I have yet to buy one), but I might buy one if I were worried about authenticity. Say... for the 95W.

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 Posted 05/24/2019  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ballyhoo to your friends list
That would be an absolutely not. I look for them as cheap as possible in the 69-70 range despite what the label says and only to ensure they are genuine. ASE's are a high counterfeit target you know. Moreso than the Trade dollars of the past.
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 Posted 05/24/2019  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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I see it this way too. NGC leads in this area, IMO.


I really like the PCGS labels and real signature offerings overall much much better. I think the autopen signatures NGC sometimes does are very cheesy. That said I do like their flag core though only HSN can get that.
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 Posted 05/24/2019  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
If you like the looks of the slab and enjoy their looks enough to pay more, then there is no problem - its a hobby. Enjoy it the way you like. Some people really enjoy a the looks of a group of slabs.

Be aware of the reality that if any coin is broken out and resubmitted to the same company, without any change to the coin at all, the coin is never guaranteed the same grade again. Its not a science.

The subjectivity behind the grading systems is what helps keeps the businesses going well for the companies. The extra cost paid for a slab is an artificial value attached to the coin by the company (or else it would never be changeable) for their opinion and "expertise."

This is why you will see so many times on CCF to buy the coin and not the holder.

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 Posted 05/24/2019  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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The extra cost paid for a slab is an artificial value attached to the coin by the company (or else it would never be changeable) for their opinion and "expertise."


There's no "" about expertise for the top tier companies just as has been pointed out in the numerous threads about them when these ready to go boiler plate posts come up.

The honest truth is that the top tier TPGs and TPG graders overall can grade circles around the overwhelming majority of their biggest critics
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 Posted 05/25/2019  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list

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I really like the PCGS labels and real signature offerings overall much much better.


As far as signature labels go, I'm in agreement with you on that as well. PCGS is superior. I think NGC labels are better in terms of graphics and photos. I really like their labels for the ATB Quarter series, for example.
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 Posted 05/26/2019  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list
generally no. I am more interested in the coin by itself, but I realize some there are some ASEs that could be/are worthy of holding in a slab. I do have some, about a dozen, I think. minimalism & practicality figure into it. some posts above have also hit on other reasons for & against them, and I share many of those views, but a signature— real or printed— or a particular graphic on a label don't really carry much weight for me. actually, I prefer a plain, unspectacular label. sometimes that stuff is just too near the neighborhood of gimmicky for me to be interested. I'm really not wanting to put too much into slabbed coins. I have my own protocols for assembling my stuff and I really stick to them.


thanks to all who have replied to this poll/post. I enjoy reading all the different perspectives. I hope more ppl chime in.


(when I was a kid, it was Ikes... Eisenhower dollars were plentiful and I loved holding & playing with them, same with old Morgans.. I think that's likely one reason why I am attracted to ASEs)
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when I was a kid, it was Ikes... Eisenhower dollars were plentiful and I loved holding & playing with them
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 Posted 05/27/2019  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list
Ummm...not meant to age myself (upper 60's) but I remember riding my bike to the local bank to get silver dollars (the REAL ones) and I always preferred the Morgans....and for a buck how could you go wrong....

They didn't always have many but it was a once a month trip to two banks for me...kinda like a treasure hunt


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 Posted 06/05/2019  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrPink2018 to your friends list
...he he he, I used to drive the ladies at the bank crazy when I was a kid... oh, those were the days.. sometimes the TPGs get me down...
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Moderators, Please lock this topic, as responses are not value added. Thank You.

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 Posted 06/05/2019  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list

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sometimes the TPGs get me down...


A lot of people have said that when their grades became available
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 Posted 06/24/2019  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave92029 to your friends list
I would not pay extra for a special label, BUT if I'm buying a graded ASE, I try to get the Black Retros. The Retros make the silver stand out from the slab packaging. Often times they are the same price as plain blue or brown slabs. So, I don't pay more but I do prefer a specific look.
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