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1864 Indian Head Cent - Opinions On Grade

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 Posted 07/16/2019  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Did you dig up this coin? AU-details seems right..
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 Posted 07/16/2019  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harry213 to your friends list
Based in LIBERTY and the head dress I'm in the high VF camp...

I also see some odd issues with the surfaces on both reverse and obverse that put it at a details grade.
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 Posted 07/16/2019  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
If this is the true color, then AU details (ED).
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 Posted 07/16/2019  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list
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 Posted 07/16/2019  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angellionel to your friends list
Thank you for your input everyone! I appreciate it.


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Did you dig up this coin? AU-details seems right..


Thanks, GS. Yes, it is a dug coin. I found it yesterday. It's safe to assume that any coin I post has been dug.


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If this is the true color, then AU details (ED).


The darker color was due to residual coin conditioner I used to remove much of the surface soil. I also used a toothpick to remove the rest of the embedded soil within the crevices. I took another look at the coin and it looks like the greenish tint is starting to show again. Here are new photos.
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 Posted 07/17/2019  02:21 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Did you ding it while digging it up ?
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 Posted 07/17/2019  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list

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Besides the color being way off you have long scratch on obverse that if deeper would have called it a die break .


I am really confused by this statement. Could you explain how this is possible?
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 Posted 07/17/2019  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list
Joe ,it looked like a scratch at first to me and mentioned could have called it a die crack if it looked deeper or clearer . Didn't know it was a dug coin at the time of my comment . Dirt over all those years in the ground most likely smooth that crack down a bit .
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 Posted 07/17/2019  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angellionel to your friends list

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Did you ding it while digging it up ?


I thought so too, but the scratch would have likely been displaying a shiny copper color, not the same tint as the rest of coin. Still, I can't dismiss the possibility that I did hit with the trowel.
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 Posted 07/17/2019  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
Sticking with AU details (environmental damage). This is not a natural color for an Indian cent.
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 Posted 07/17/2019  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
AU details
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 Posted 07/17/2019  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list

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I thought so too, but the scratch would have likely been displaying a shiny copper color, not the same tint as the rest of coin.


Thought maybe your treatment may have changed the color a bit, scratch included.
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 Posted 07/17/2019  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Oh, what kind of coin conditioner are you using ?
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 Posted 07/17/2019  9:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angellionel to your friends list

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Thought maybe your treatment may have changed the color a bit, scratch included.


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Oh, what kind of coin conditioner are you using ?


I'm using Coin Care. It does tend to darken some coppers a bit, but it doesn't affect any areas were the underlying shinier metal has been exposed, as when a coin has been scratched. I've had mostly good results using the conditioner. I recently started using Conserv on wheat cents with some fair results.
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 Posted 07/19/2019  6:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
au55 details env damage
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