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1999 Georgia-P State Quarter - Crooked 'T' In Liberty Error Or Damage?

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 Posted 03/23/2020  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cheetopendejo to your friends list

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i'll have to look into it but I've heard that before, just couldn't verify it cause I couldn't find consensus from spanish speaking people. my name is a reference to 'Idiocracy' so I wouldn't doubt that it likely translates to a dumb/funny term.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
I wondered if you have a clash on the obverse and could find the overlay. Made a new one and later found the old one, dumped it and kept this one:
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Doesn't look like a match on the area of the nose to the jaw.
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I wondered if you have a clash on the obverse and could find the overlay. Made a new one and later found the old one, dumped it and kept this one


i'll try and get a better picture but I'm inclined to believe those who say it was damage because it appears over several letters. I ordered one of those cheap usb microscopes and I plan to go over everything with that but I'm thinking about trying out a few of the phones I have at my disposal in the meantime and if I can get a better photo of both sides i'll share it.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
An incuse mark on a coin is 99% of the time, damage to the coin. Only 1% of the time it is a mint error. While there are a lot of different errors, damage is mostly the cause that altered coins.
Here is a site that covers these mint errors:
http://www.error-ref.com/
It will probably take a month of reading just to scratch the surface of what is there. But well worth the read.
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Here is a site that covers these mint errors:
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thanks, great site. that will definitely come in handy.
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An incuse mark on a coin is 99% of the time, damage to the coin.


by "incuse mark" you're referring to something on the flat part of the coin? this is a totally new term to me and from what I seem to understand. incuse refers to the parts that are carved into the coin as opposed to a relief which is raised?

i tried googling it but every use of 'incuse mark' I found seemed to use the word to define itself.
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1999-Georgia-P-State-Quarter---Crooked-'T'-In-Liberty-Error-Or-Damage?

I still needed a little more clarification and using the term "incuse devices" instead of "incuse mark" I found more information and ended up finding this gem on google: https://goccf.com/t/353014

That explains everything so much more clearly, and it turns out you're the author as well so I feel like you were holding out. But seriously, thanks for the help. I almost feel bad for wasting your time, but I do very much appreciate it.
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found this today. would it be considered an incuse mint mark? not sure I've seen or noticed them before.


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The MM on your coin would not be incuse.
That MM, like all primary MM's, is raised above the field just like Washingtons bust or the other letters.

(The die which strikes the coin is the opposite of course to produce the raised design on the coin.)
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The MM on your coin would not be incuse.
That MM, like all primary MM's, is raised above the field just like Washingtons bust or the other letters.


gotcha. I see that it's raised above the field but I saw it as the outline of the "D" being pressed into the field around the nub that forms the inside, but I get what you mean because it's still above the flat part.
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 Posted 03/29/2020  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
The reason the center of the mintmark is not formed is that the post that would have formed the center of 'D' has broken off the die. Thus that incuse area inside of the mintmark was not formed because of the missing post. The missing post area is now a void. Thus the reason why it is filled in.
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The reason the center of the mintmark is not formed is that the post that would have formed the center of 'D' has broken off the die


ah, interesting. i'd ask you why they're not considered special but I looked through my little stack of quarters and I've actually got like 3 so i'll assume they're common. I'm pretty sure I have a philly mint filled as well and I've only got like 3 or 4 P mint mark quarters. i'd just never paid attention before and I'm thinking it's more common on quarters cause I don't think I've come across any pennies like that.
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