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An Introduction To New Zealand Decimal Coins 1967 - 2020

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 Posted 07/09/2022  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list
NumisRob, you may have seen that stamp advertised as part of a presentation pack issued in 1971 that had the 1970 definitives that included the ½c and 2½c moth stamps. That set was not replaced until 1975 and that pack may have remained on sale until the 1980s. So possibly the only way you could have got that ½c stamp was through that pack, although I am sure some post offices would have sold you a pair of the stamps for 1c. The 2½ cents would have been collectible as most of them were overprinted in 1971 for 4c, the most commonly used rate (1st class sealed surface).

They were issued in 1967 and 1970 when 2nd class postage was established at 2½cents. The original intention was for a Half Cent coin made out of aluminium - but this was scrapped when it was decided it was too expensive and a hassle.

The 2½c postage rate was 2nd class (Unsealed, local surface mail) and was increased in late 1970 to 3cents. It was not used much and 3c was the basic sealed surface rate with 4c being the inland airmail rate. These rates were in line with the 1965 postage rate increase from 2½d to 3d and the other rates were 4d and 5d.

So this meant with decimal currency, the 3d rate was the same at 2½c in new currency and the 4d and 5d rates to 3c and 4c were slight decreases. The same happened in Australia in 1966, when the 5d local rate became 4c, although it quickly went to 5c in late 1967. The 2½c, 3c and 4c were the same colours and designs as the old 3d, 4d and 5d stamps of the 1960 set.

In late 1970 these rates climbed to 3c, 4c and 5c and the need for a 2½c stamp was gone. Between 1967 and 1970, you had to buy 2½c in pairs for 5c, a booklet or buy 2 x ½c stamps for 1c.

A 7½c stamp was also issued in 1967 and 1970 as this was the rate for registered local mail (2½c postage + 5c registration fee) again, you would have to buy 2 of these stamps for 15c or get 1 with a ½c stamp as change.

Finally in 1978 they did away with the 2nd class unsealed rate and in 1982 did away with surface mail rates, so that the one local rate was internal airmail.

Hope this helps.
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07/09/2022 3:32 pm
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 Posted 07/09/2022  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list
The stamps NumisRob is referring to


An-Introduction-To-New-Zealand-Decimal-Coins-1967---2020
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The 1970 set came out after it was thought the 1960 designs were too dated in this era. They epitomise the worst of the late 60s/early 70s, horrendous graphic hippy art and the Helvetica bold script.


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The complete 1967 definitive set

Sorry I know this post is Stamp heavy, but more details about the 1967 can be found on Page 1 of this thread!
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07/09/2022 3:40 pm
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 Posted 07/10/2022  03:43 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list
Thanks Princetane for the explanation!

I tried to buy as many of the then-current definitive stamps as I could afford with my pocket money on that trip in 1974. I used to be quite thorough with keeping up with NZ stamps, but after the turn of the Millennium they started getting very silly with lots of huge sets, high values and even a 3-D stamp in a plastic cube that was totally unsuitable for postage, and I gave up, although I have made occasional additions to my collection on subsequent visits to NZ!

That's not just a criticism of the NZ postal service - Royal Mail in the UK has been even worse! And at least there are far fewer circulating commemoratives in NZ and no A-Z coins... yet!
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07/10/2022 03:52 am
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 Posted 07/11/2022  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list
My pleasure and I totally agree. NZ got very silly around 2008/09 with sheets of about 10 - 20 stamps at standard rates with a common theme. They started off well, but got silly very quickly and poorly designed. As postage shot up from 45 cents in 2006 to $1.70, they declined from 20+ stamps a sheet down to 8 now!

The 3d stamp was the 2011 and 2015 world cup rugby ones that cost $15 and were a total cash in.
My NZ collection stops at 1980, although I have the best of the later sets and buy 1 or 2 a year. I also collect the definitives, although the latest issue with $5.10 and $6.80 stamps may test my devotion!
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 Posted 07/11/2022  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list
Stamps got silly here in Australia too. I stopped collecting them about 3 years ago.
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 Posted 07/17/2022  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NZStamps to your friends list
I collect old stamps mainly pre WWII but will add any NZ ones I dont too the collection. I really like my Franklin and Washington stamps and I try marry coin and stamp years up where possible.
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 Posted 11/13/2022  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list
Hey Pincetane, are all $5 coins in proof sets 92% silver or thereabouts ?
Like the 1992 proof set ?
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 Posted 11/13/2022  01:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list

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... are all $5 coins in proof sets 92% silver or thereabouts ?
Like the 1992 proof set ?

I think that you will find the information that you're looking for here on Numista https://en.numista.com/catalogue/no...lande-7.html

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 Posted 11/13/2022  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list
Looks like they are... thanks coaster.
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 Posted 11/13/2022  03:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Princetane to your friends list
Yes all Proof $1 coins from 1977 onwards and $5 from 1991 onwards are Sterling silver (But not the 1990 $5 Anzac coin). Also the Proof $1 of the 1974 Games coin is silver too.

However the "Uncirculated" grade are NOT silver, but Cupronickel. These came in plastic square cases, plastic sets and later cardboard sets and holders. Same with the Polished Specimen coins of 1965, 1967 to 1976 and all Proof coins 1c to 50c up to 1990 (Except the 150th anniversary proof set of 1990) and Proof set coins 5c to $2 from 1991 are also not Silver.
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 Posted 11/13/2022  03:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list
Thanks Princetane , much appreciated, my collection thus still grows.
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 Posted 01/05/2023  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crab eater to your friends list
Scored a 2008 NZ Proof set today ,. Only 3,000 made I think.
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 Posted 03/17/2023  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MachinMachinMan to your friends list
Seems the NZ part of this forum is pretty much dead since Princetane disappeared.

Such a shame.

His enthusiasium and knowledge is sorely missed.
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 Posted 03/18/2023  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list

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His enthusiasium and knowledge is sorely missed.

Totally agree. Although I am still in touch with him.

I just received a nice package of coins from him too, including this scarce 1935 3d.

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 Posted 03/19/2023  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list

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Totally agree. Although I am still in touch with him.

I just received a nice package of coins from him too, including this scarce 1935 3d.


That is a relief to hear. I miss his knowledge and storytelling.
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