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1859 Indian Head Cent You Vs PCGS

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 Posted 02/06/2021  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
I say MS-64
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 Posted 02/06/2021  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Very nice and lustrous IHC you've got, Grape.
I am looking for a 1859 IHC myself, but noticed that many (most?) of these cents show no luster at all even in Mint State. Not sure why. Is that a property of the copper-nickel alloy?
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 Posted 02/06/2021  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list
Hi Ed,

No, it's not a property of the alloy per say. Many copper nickel indians from 1860-1864 show great luster, however I believe it has to do with initial storage way back when, though I have no evidence to back that up. Don't give up though, it took around a year to find this one but it's really luck of the draw if you find a nice one available.
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 Posted 02/07/2021  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
Beautiful coin! Rock solid MS-64. This may be another candidate for the bean factory.
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 Posted 02/07/2021  9:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Compared to the MS62 IHC I have just seen on Great Collections that didn't have much luster, this IHC is way better. So my guess is MS64 for Grape's IHC.
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Well here she is! All up I had $826 in it, which is defiantly top of the market in terms of price. But I have no doubts it's extremely strong for the grade, if not outright undergraded. I easily think this will earn a green if not gold bean. Nice to finally fill this one out.
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I'm sticking with my call of MS63 on it, It does have more luster than I thought from this photo, how strong are the diamonds? They are what was holding me back from a higher grade. Another coin with next to no carbon spotting, that is the key for me on it. A great type coin.
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 Posted 02/07/2021  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
My 1859 is graded NGC MS-64. Your coin looks more lustrous and has fewer spots. MS-63 seems very conservative. Nice score!
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 Posted 02/07/2021  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
Once again, great looking example and nice pickup. I think it will easily sticker w/ a green bean.
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They are what was holding me back from a higher grade. Another coin with next to no carbon spotting, that is the key for me on it.


Yep. The diamonds are a bit soft, but honestly that doesn't bother me. The carbon spots are the big deal, or rather, the lack of them.


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I think it will easily sticker w/ a green bean.


Yep. Whenever I get enough for the next CAC sub this'll be with it.
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 Posted 02/08/2021  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list
I see lots of comments about soft strike and while I agree that it does have a soft strike, I'm unsure of why that matters at this level.

My expertise is more with Lincolns with which the strike really is not an issue at all till you get up to the 67 level, and maybe not even then if everything else is up to par.

Is this an integral part of IHC grading that is different from LWC grading?
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