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1933 Double Eagle Is Going Up For Auction!

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 Posted 03/10/2021  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I had to go look it up as it's been a long time since I visited this site, but it's pretty neat.

https://invertedjenny.com/

There is a corner plate block with the red plate number showing. There are only 100 stamps on the sheet not 200 so only the one plate number. See the link on the sales data to see the whole sheet at once by position. There is the unique siderographer's block in red.

Col. Green bought the entire sheet (because of course he did, like all 5 of the 1913 Liberty nickels), He gave his wife Mabel one in a locket (position #9), there is a photo of it on the discovery page.

A really neat website to explore and learn about the inverted Jenny stamps.

I had no idea that Stuart Weitzman had earlier purchased the unique one-cent Magenta British Guiana stamp for $9,480,000 at an auction at Sotheby's, which is a world-record price for a stamp. I knew it has expensive but holy cow! The price on the Jenny block was never told but it last sold in 2005 for $2,970,000

All three of these could be close to $30,000,000.00 and still not even half the price of the top priced 1963 Ferrari 250GTO, ($70 million+) but on par with the 7th or 8th highest priced Ferrari.

https://www.ferrarilakeforest.com/m...ve-ferraris/

The rich keep getting richer.

Adding some other cool 1933 Links and threads here on CCF:

http://goccf.com/t/226799

http://goccf.com/t/227178

http://goccf.com/t/93647

http://goccf.com/t/18603

http://goccf.com/t/382514

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 Posted 03/10/2021  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
I bid... melt + 5% for the Gold Eagle coin.
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 Posted 03/11/2021  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newguy22 to your friends list
@kbbpll That's insane! I feel any modern marking done on a historic item will always detract its value, intentional and unintentional. Imagine if coin collectors carved their initials on the most valuable coins they owned!
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 Posted 03/11/2021  01:55 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
$12.75 Million is my top bid for the 1933 .........in my dreams !
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 Posted 03/11/2021  07:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list
Amazing auction for three amazing items.
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
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 Posted 03/11/2021  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list

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So, @kanga, you will buy your 1933 double eagle when the prices drops? How low would it need to go?

No way will I ever have a 1933 Double Eagle because:
1. I don't collect Double Eagles (except for my Registry Set).
2. I couldn't afford one even if all the existing ones were released to the public and the price came down.
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 Posted 03/11/2021  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I'm not really into the 1933 Double Eagle because it's not that attractive of a coin beyond the design itself. This particular coin is fairly mundane and almost plain as Saints go. Now a nice high relief 1907? Yes please.

Those of you that have seen this coin will know what I'm talking about. I'd put the grade at or around MS64 tops. Other than that rare date. it's just not that spectacular of a coin. But no denying the history and mystic behind it.

Auction Lot with photos and lengthy description as well as reference list from Sothebys/Stack's sale on July 20, 2002:

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...double-eagle

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 Posted 03/11/2021  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
no time to read all links (note to self)
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Wow, $18.9 Million!
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 Posted 06/10/2021  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
The total for all 3 items:

1933 St. Gaudens Double Eagle $18,872,250.00
Block of four "Inverted" Jenny misprint Stamps with plate number $4,860,000.00
The Unique British Guiana 1856 One-Cent Black on Magenta Surface-Colored Paper $8,307,000.00

Total on all three lots was $$32,039,250.00

I didn't guess too far off at around $30 million total on all three. Still crazy prices, proving those with money, have lots of it to spend.
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 Posted 06/10/2021  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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Imagine if coin collectors carved their initials on the most valuable coins they owned!

Some of the major large cent collector used to use paint or ink on the edge of the coin to indicate ownership, A lettered edge cent with the H and final D filled with yellow was an indication of ownership by Homer Downing. Collectors of colonials and Conder tokens used to write the attribution or acquisition number on the field of the coin in India ink. I still have a few pieces in my collection that have these markings. I also have a couple where the ink was removed but the numbers are still visible due to the difference in toning.

Then there is the Dexter specimen of the 1804 dollar where the owner counterstamped a D into one of the clouds on the reverse.
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Only if I have 300 million $!
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 Posted 06/11/2021  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add newguy22 to your friends list
@Conder101 would you care to share a photo of one such large cent from your collection? Very cool by the way!
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 Posted 06/12/2021  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I found a few of these recently in my searches here is an excellent example of old pedigree information and cataloging via ink on an old ex-Miller attributed 1786 Connecticut cent, ex-Taylor, (I just purchased a copy of the Taylor catalog and am now looking for a copy (reasonably priced) of the photo plates that were issued.

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...ad-vg-8-PCGS

The Homer Downing coins are probably the most well known and the neatest pedigree with inked ID coins. Homer inked in the H & D on the edge with yellow ink for his initials. Chuck Heck had a coin in his collection he shared with the NBS group in an old e-sylum interview:

https://www.coinbooks.org/v20/esylu...0n01a19.html

When Chuck sold his collection that contained a number of inked Hayes & Downing coins and the Goldberg catalog had fabulous photos unfortunately not a single photo of any of the inked edges, though the coins with them were so mentioned in the descriptions.

I too would love to see any examples Condor101 has in his own collection, such an interesting way to pedigree a coin in a fairly non destructive way back then, I know it was and is still fairly common in the ancient collector side.
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