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Pillar of the Community
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Interesting thoughts so far, I will have to look at all the known die states to see what Newcomb number it should get. I wonder if some of this weakness was caused by grease on the denticals and stars? If it is a fake, then it is a really good copy...
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Put me in the genuine camp, but I would send the coin back to the seller for a refund. See below an 1851 NGC MS62 example with the same stars and denticles strike. OP Example  NGC Genuine   Edited by Slider23
04/25/2021 4:50 pm
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coin does have some of the markers for N-24. Lump in correct place on N in cent on reverse. Also has some of the faint lines on the neck and hair buns on obverse. Also a faint crack at star 8. Denticles do look a bit suspicious though.
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Really guys? Fake? Denticles can look like that on large cents, just like Seated dimes and Half Dimes. It's real, either AU58 or MS63 |
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Even though the denticles look a bit odd I lean towards real also. Looks uncirculated on most of the coin but the stars being almost all flat also is odd for an uncirculated coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
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AU details. something if off with the color. looks recolored line airbrushed. strange
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I myself am strongly leaning towards genuine, and I payed less than 50 bucks for it  . To slider23s point, I want to actually get this authenticated by a TPG (real or not), since this is my highest grade now currently in my large cents collection. I knew that it had mushy denticles, but that looked like an incomplete strike to me. It to me has a subdued luster, but being 170 years old, it could have had episodes where the copper toned strangely. |
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Looks genuine to me as well, although surface originality/ color look suspect. AU58, likely Details.
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'll say genuine and AU-58.
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I'm with grape on this one...at least au58, but I'm leaning toward ms.
Get it slabbed.
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Bedrock of the Community
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altering my assessment. the last 2 photos seem to be more representational of the coin color and surfaces. I dont think the coin crosses over to MS. AU58
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Quote:
the last 2 photos seem to be more representational of the coin color and surfaces. The last two photos aren't the OP's coin. There is wear on the high points, AU58. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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thanks Mike1487 - didnt catch that
still AU58 still not sure if the color is original
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Oh boy, I am having too much fun with this thread , I don't mind at all learning your opinions. As to the luster, I can see some, but again subdued, as in it might have been lightly circulated to get it that color, then put away for a possible 145 years doing nothing until getting sold to a coin collector... |
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MS-details, cleaned (color is off). Might get market graded at AU-55 or so in a slab. A nice coin even if it gets bagged.
Edited by fenton
04/30/2021 8:02 pm
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