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1795 Flowing Hair Silver Dollar, 2 Leaves (PCGS Vs. You)

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 Posted 05/29/2021  11:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list
I would guess xf45 also.
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 Posted 05/29/2021  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Significant circulation wear on both sides. Seems like it's actually a good strike for the issue and detail loss is mostly due to wear. Nice original surfaces and excellent eye appeal. Wish it were in my collection!
First thought was XF-40, solid for the grade.
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 Posted 05/30/2021  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list
This is 46 hours after I created this thread. Please forgive my zealousness in skipping the final two hours!

It seems that the majority of you experienced collectors/numismatists thought this may grade at least one grade higher. Do you think this coin should be CACed?

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 Posted 05/30/2021  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
I would think it's worthy of a CAC shot at least. It's a nice looking example and to me quite original.
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 Posted 05/30/2021  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
great looking example. Problem free and original, solid for the grade.
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 Posted 05/30/2021  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list
I would have agreed with EF40 as well. Nicely toned and the obverse in particular is well struck and well detailed.
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 Posted 05/30/2021  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list
Send to CAC.
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 Posted 05/31/2021  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
i think its better than XF40. I would consider beaning it.
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 Posted 07/07/2021  02:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list
I just saw this EF(45) specimen on David Lawrence's website. The hair on the top of the head looks a little better, but the cheek looks worse, as does the hair in the middle to lower areas. Is this one really one grade higher than mine?


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 Posted 07/07/2021  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
Adam your coin is so much nicer than the DLRC example, especially that reverse which appears to have signs of old corrosion beginning again. I'd rather have your XF40 over that XF45 any day.

Buy the coin not the holder, even the best get them wrong often enough, and remember it's only an opinion in the long run, an educated guess if you will.
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 Posted 07/07/2021  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
I prefer yours as well.
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 Posted 07/07/2021  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list
I'd pick yours first any day. More consistent surfaces and color, far better eye appeal on yours. You chose well!
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 Posted 07/07/2021  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
EF-40 seems right. It has some very noticeable wear but is a tremendous example.
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 Posted 07/07/2021  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list
Ef45
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 Posted 07/07/2021  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam590 to your friends list
Thanks, guys. I am learning how the coin market demands patience and tolerance of uncertainty. Obtaining a nice VF example of this issue with decent hair detail has been on my bucket list for years, and this EF example came on the market in the early spring--it was above my price range, but I re-arranged some things and made it work. I didn't choose a 2 leaf example specifically, but when this came up for the right price (extremely well under the astronomical PCGS retail price guide estimate) and seemed to have good enough flowing hair detail and an aesthetically pleasing distribution of wear (in addition to problem-free, even somewhat lustrous, surfaces!), I realized this specimen was THE right one at the right time. My favorite coins in my collection (an 1875-S Twenty Cent Piece with gorgeous reverse toning, an 1838-O dime with a low MS dinged up, yet prismatically colored, patina etc.) were all the right ones at the right time--not necessarily the next coin on my checklist in the ideal grade I imagined, but ones that I will always love looking at. I learn so much from reading this forum.
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