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Pillar of the Community
United States
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May I ask if it is the 19 in the date that is worrisome  It looks not as sharp as it needs to be. I will say I am a noobie when it comes to a coin like this, and yeah, I probably would get suckered by this  pretty badly... Is this an alteration from a genuine 1937-D, or is this a flat-out counterfeit? |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Is this an alteration from a genuine 1937-D, or is this a flat-out counterfeit? As I stated in my post, it is a Chinese counterfeit that is not even close to a genuine 3 leg. If you want more information, make use of the search box in the upper left column and you will find numerous other posts on thissubject. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2958 Posts |
We posted at the same time here, and I wouldn't know this particular coin being a Chinese fake unless I had a known genuine specimen to compare with, such as PCGS coinfacts which post images to compare with. But in the wild, there would be a higher probability of me not understanding this, and would most likely be fooled if I was not careful.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It lacks the die markers such as the corrosion/roughness in the back leg on the reverse and the back of the neck on the obverse. The coin looks like Play-Doh, with no detail and smooth texture. It is too bad people are quick to bid and lack knowledge on counterfeits.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2958 Posts |
It's interesting, I have the complete set of Buffalo nickels but never focused on the major errors (though I know about them) such as this, since they are all so rare, the chances of me finding any one of them in the wild is extremely slim... Hence my ignorance on fakes of this series. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
One-look fake (check the rear leg).  |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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None of the die markers are present. The eroded rear leg, "pee stream" below the belly, separation of the small feather from the neck line. There are numerous spots that would show signs of Die Deterioration and over polishing, this one shows none. Mushy surfaces and lack of sharpness, including the date, are great indicators to a counterfeit as JimmyD pointed out. There are also a few spots that show raised bumps (in front of the nose, and also a very suspect area above the raised ground above the F in FIVE. Icing on the cake, if it weren't already obvious enough with the lack of all die markers, MM is in the wrong location. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Thanks for the screen shot of the coin, before it was taken down. So often I go to view one of these Chinese fakes, and the listing has been removed.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice catch, glad it was removed, and yes a big thanks for saving the photos Ty, it's not always easy to know what happened after the coin gets remove, this one is a pretty bad counterfeit to us knowledgeable collectors, but always good to educate the new collectors, remember, if it's too good to be true, then it most likely is, not to say there is never a deal to had, that comes with time and experience after looking at thousand and thousands of coins.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Nice catch, glad it was removed, and yes a big thanks for saving the photos Ty, it's not always easy to know what happened after the coin gets remove Quote:
Thanks for the screen shot of the coin, before it was taken down. So often I go to view one of these Chinese fakes, and the listing has been removed. Copy the item number from the url and use this tool I built.... https://www.coincommunity.com/ebay_...ge-image.asp |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great tool Bobby I will use it in the future now I know about it.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Forum Dad
United States
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I've had it pull the first image on a listing that was almost 3 years old.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Look at his other Buff listings. Most are Chinese fakes, too. I have little doubt that the "estate set" the seller referenced was a complete fake Buff set in a fake Whitman album.
Back when my wife and I did shows, we regularly had people try to sell these complete counterfeit sets of Buffs, IHCs, and type coins. Some of the people genuinely believed they had purchased real coins, and a few paid quite a bit for them.
This garbage won't stop until the online auctions are held liable.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2958 Posts |
Thanks TY2020b and bobby131313 and the others to help clarify this fake and for showing me and others what a fake this not-coin is. |
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