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American Eagle Silver Dollar 1992

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 Posted 12/20/2024  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VanNomadCoins to your friends list
It seems the coin's value considerably increases when with this type of after market packaging and CAO. It was not done by the mint. No bullion eagles were or are sold directly to the public by the US mint. I checked ebay and saw one sell for $115 and another for $58 with box that was not in mint condition. It seems to be way rarer than the proof with an after market box, as the only one listed currently on ebay is $80. There are dozens of proof eagles from 1992 in original box listed. Probably most threw out the green box. Here is a photo of mine.
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 Posted 12/20/2024  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
I can't 100% tell from your picture, but I highly doubt you have a proof. The U.S. Mint only issued purple and blue boxes. Your ASE looks like a bullion coin in an aftermarket case.
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 Posted 12/20/2024  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list

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It seems to be way rarer than the proof with original box,

@VanNomadCoins: As others have mentioned in the original thread, the coin shown is a common bullion piece that a third-party marketer "dressed up" in a fancy package. The packaging might be relatively "rare" but the coin certainly isn't!

As previously mentioned, the 1992 bullion coin's mintage was 5.54 million; the 1992 Proof ASE had a mintage of ~498,500 - less than 1/10th of the mintage of the bullion version.

Third-party re-packaging materials aren't typically worth much of a premium for modern coins.






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 Posted 12/20/2024  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VanNomadCoins to your friends list
I corrected my original post to state it was after market packaging. They are definitely going for a much greater premium than expected though. Check ebay. One sold for $115 and currently one is listed for $79.95 and it is in someone's cart. Maybe buyers didn't know this was after market packaging or they like many collectors want this because it is somewhat rare. Sure seems rare if one goes by the low number of sales and listings in this green box.
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 Posted 12/21/2024  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list
Anyone paying that much for this ASE fall directly into two categories. Those who understand what it is and those who don't.
People who do know what it is are evidently into collecting bullion that the aftermarket sellers sold as a keepsake or gift. If that's what they're in to, who is anyone to tell them they shouldn't. I've purchased bonafide US Mint sets that are worth way less than any sane person would normally pay, because it's a hobby. It's not always going to earn you money. That's the one attitude I really hate, is people trying to make money in metals, which you absolutely can do, and trying to tell someone how dumb they are because they spend money on their hobby. I remember my dad griping about me spending every dollar I made on an old car. My mom told him at least I have something to show for it, he could be blowing it all in bars (she had several alcoholics in her family).
The other person who works spend this much on a bullion ASE is just someone for some reason has no idea what they are looking at, sees the green box and thinks it's something special.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TinyRetreat to your friends list
Burnished ... not proof ... IMO ... WITH my glasses on ...
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Burnished ... not proof ... IMO ... WITH my glasses on ...


That's the problem with using the term "burnished". There's nothing official really (from the mint) about "burnished". Usually people refer to the official term "Uncirculated" as burnished. I'm talking about the finish that the mint introduced on silver and gold eagles in 2006. They appear very similar to what this coin is, "bullion". BUT they have a mint mark, AND are sold to individuals. The bullion versions are NOT sold to the public, only to authorized purchasers, who can then sell them to the public.
Anyways, the upshot is the ASE shown is bullion."Burnished" to most people is the "Uncirculated" and it's not that due to the year it was made and lack of a mint mark.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
@Van & @Gilly, I think you're correct that people just don't understand the difference between bullion/proof/uncirculated. Or equally likely, that unscrupulous sellers are trying to pull a fast one on on the uneducated. There's a sucker born every day. Oh by the way, I have a bridge for sale.

This is bullion; end of story. If you or someone else can get someone to pay more than spot + $5, good on ya.

I do like the packaging; always a fan of green.


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That's the problem with using the term "burnished". There's nothing official really (from the mint) about "burnished".

Yeah, I wish they'd tighten that up but I'm not sure what they can do. The word "burnished" doesn't even appear in the product listings but once upon a time the term was used and people can't get it out of their heads.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgans Dad to your friends list
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The Term was UNCIRCULATED........

Well stated Celtic ....

To me they make an Uncirculated finish Bullion, Not a Burnished Bullion..

They also make an Uncirculated version of Mint marked coins.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list

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The word "burnished" doesn't even appear in the product listings but once upon a time the term was used and people can't get it out of their heads.


To be fair, the Mint did, or possibly still does, use the term. But not towards the finished coin. They I believe used in in describing I think the planchet being "specially burnished" or possibly in describing the dies. I'll search around.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list
Here is a copy and paste of a paragraph from a 2006 US Mint press release:

"Struck on specially burnished blanks, the American Eagle Uncirculated Coins feature a finish similar to their bullion counterparts, but carry the "W" mint mark reflecting their striking at the United States Mint at West Point. Each coin is encapsulated in plastic and accompanied by a Certificate of Authenticity."
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 Posted 12/22/2024  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list
Yeah, that was 18 years ago, @Gilly.
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 Posted 12/22/2024  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Check Gilly's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Gilly to your friends list
Exactly. Point being that using the term "burnished" started back then and has stuck. My opinion is the Mint may have made it less confusing if they had made burnished the official name. Uncirculated is confusing because not even the bullion is meant for circulation. And add that to the fact they all do have a one dollar face value. So not meant for circulation, marked one dollar, and then call them Uncirculated besides. Great. Great idea, US Mint. Go make up a medal for yourselves.
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Go make up a medal for yourselves.

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 Posted 12/23/2024  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
Aftermarket packaging for a bullion silver eagle. The packaging might be worth a couple bucks to someone who is knowledgeable of the series.
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