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 Posted 03/18/2012  06:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For arguments sake lets say there's 200 incused flag rolls hoarded out there, that's 4000 in unc condition plus lets say another 1000 from general collections. That's still only 5000 in unc condition. Still a low number!

If there were lots around, surely some of the hoarded rolls would be turning up now. Especially if $300 each is considered by all but a select few collectors/investors as 'overpriced'. There would surely be some willing to sell a $6000 roll!

I'm not saying I'm right, I might not be! But in my opinion the trends suggest that there aren't that many unc examples around.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the likelihood of several rolls turning up is very unlikely
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 Posted 03/18/2012  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do mint rolls all come from one die, or were all the coins mixed together and then put into rolls?
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 Posted 03/18/2012  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the mint rolls come from one of those huge buckets of coins, which may have several different types in it. The best people to ask will be thepurplepenny or stuartanderson.
It's an interesting one, just like the release of specimen coins.
Just like whether they're all obverse/reverse facing (e.g: facing the same direction).
Making me very curious now...hmm.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goatieman,
What do you mean about specimen coins?
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 Posted 03/19/2012  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
often called PL.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  03:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said, Stuart Andersen or thepurplepenny would be able to tell you lots about rolls & specimens.

PL stands for proof like. At this point in time I believe specimens/PL coins would basically be coins that could have been produced for sets that never eventuated in a set. So most likely cleaner &/or neater fields, possiblly with better & crisper details. (this is what I know)

As for incused 50 cents, I opened the till today at work &...
what did I have sitting on top?
a lovely 2000 Incused 50 cent piece. See below:

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I also do have another much nicer one (EF+, I'll try & post a photo when I get home (weekend)) which cost mid $50's a couple of years ago. I missed out on one from Sterling & Currency which ended up selling for $135 odd dollars.
I'm not really a noodler (although I've been trying to do some $50 note types/years research recently).
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 Posted 03/21/2012  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add the-purple-penny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have I been summoned to talk about rolls? Off topic I guess.
This is a good read:
http://www.australian-threepence.co...t-rolls.html

I guess you have to determine if you have a mint roll or a security roll. A security roll could contain anything, new coins on each end and all banged up circulated range of dates in the middle. Or you could be lucky to get a full roll of all new coins but if you don't know their source it's pot luck.
If it's a mint roll that's different. In mint packaging these are "guaranteed" so to speak that they are original new coins in the roll. Are they all from the same die? Who would know, it depends on what the production load was at that time and how many presses were minting that coin.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  05:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rbarat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully in about a week, i'll have one too. I'm bidding on one of these quicksales. Bit pricey, but the obverse doesn't look too bad in the scan. The flag side has a few nicks (a long way from perfect) so its a gamble... Knowing my luck a better one will turn up on ebay for less $$ now I've committed with a bid on this one.

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 Posted 03/21/2012  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks threepence. I knew would have the best information regarding the rolls, thanks, yet again.
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 Posted 03/22/2012  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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Looking for Incused Coins & come across this,there is the lateral cross on the top diagonal and the lower diagonal is different to a normal coin.Question for the Brains Trust,what is it and is it worth more than 50c?.TIA.
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 Posted 03/23/2012  03:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Basil, I think yours is a regular coin. See if you can see the differences between the following pictures:

Incused flag where the blue line indicates the 4 areas that are different, on an incused these areas are quite smooth.
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Regular coin where the same 4 areas are not smooth, but have a certain 'roughness' or texture to them.
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Incused Star above, smooth interior, no texture at all, Regular star below, slightly smaller and a 'rough' or textured interior.
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The interior of the Stars on my coins didn't come up very well, but trust me, when you finally find an Incuse, you will see the difference straight away.
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 Posted 03/23/2012  7:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nancy,yeah,looking at your pics. it just looks like the normal one but(possibly) minted with gunk in the die,cross bar thingy on top diagonal,no texture on lower diagonal and some lines mot complete,oh well back in the draw.
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 Posted 03/29/2012  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rbarat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did anyone on here get this lot ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAP...p=true&rt=nc

They all look pretty good, but there seems to be the 'perfect' angle on these coins that makes them look better.

And an image of one I picked up off quicksales, better condition that 2 non incused ones I picked up out of circulation so I'm happy!

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 Posted 03/29/2012  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
9 is a bit excessive for a collector and over $30 each leaves a small to non existent margin for profit. Not the best lot for that price IMO.
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