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How Would You Grade This 1967 Dollar

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Question, if less coins are graded in low grades and there are a lot of high grade ones around, will the low grade ones cost more than the high grade ones?
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no.............a lower end 1967 dollar is a bullion related coin currently around ten bucks.
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Not talking specifically about the 1967 dollar. For example, if the vast majority of the coins of that type and year are graded MS, and only a small percentage is circulated, will the low grade ones cost more than the high grade ones?
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Cannot think of a case where this would happen. Most collectors desire the top grades. A good example might be a 1921 50 cents . Rare in all grades but almost unheard of in VF or EF. Still an MS 60 would command a higher price than a VF. Hope this sheds some "fog" on your question !
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I've mentioned this on here before. Although mostly true that most collectors are looking for perfect coins, however some will collect full grade ranges (G to MS) of particular years. Some coins can be extremely difficult to find in low grade (eg; 1935 dollar, etc...). I've seen some collectors walk around with a coin in their pocket for a couple of years just to get there. On pricing, the last MS65 I auctioned off sold for around 150.00 and I wasn't alone in that range. In general, pricing for Canadian silver dollars at the moment is very depressed.
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Except for the 1947 Maple Leaf and 1948 Dollar - no depression there. I have been tracking those years graded by reputable companies for over a year and on ebay auctions they often go close to book value whereas other years can go 55 - 75% of catalogue including shipping.
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will the low grade ones cost more than the high grade ones


Only once they cross the threshold to being a "lowball" coin. I know someone who paid $50 for a beautiful 1967 dollar that you could not read any of the legends on both sides, it was _that_ worn. Obviously the reverse was the reason how one knew the date. My friend is sending it to ICCS, and I am convinced it will grade Poor (P-01).

So in that case, yes, a low grade (G-4 or less) will cost more than a higher grade (EF-low MS, which is melt).
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I see, thanks guys! Pricing is one complicated subject.
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Only once they cross the threshold to being a "lowball" coin. I know someone who paid $50 for a beautiful 1967 dollar that you could not read any of the legends on both sides, it was _that_ worn. Obviously the reverse was the reason how one knew the date. My friend is sending it to ICCS, and I am convinced it will grade Poor (P-01).


Would love to see that!
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I can fully understand and appreciate someone's desire to collect a 'low grade' set, mainly for the fun and the challenge of it.

But paying a higher price for a worn coin than one of a higher grade is just down right foolish.

Oh well, guess I'm just missing out on some rare Poor's.
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My view is that most of us and the 2 generations before us had silver change in our/their pockets and many were circulating in our pockets for many years/decades that way. No credit cards..etc..

They had paper bills for higher denominations and silver dollars were too big and heavy and uncomfortable to carry around and were rarely used for purchases.

Very few silver dollars would circulate for the decades needed to get really worn down like the smaller pieces did.

So a G grade of dollar would be next to impossible to find..then or now..The Canadian dollars started in 1935 and would have been seen as a novelty and tucked away as mainly a keepsake..
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That makes sense. A well worn coin has history, since it wasn't hidden away.
My sister lives in the US and she says when people come across a dollar coin they put it away like they found a treasure.
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Perhaps I misread SlurExe97's question, but it doesn't seem overall that the population reports of the grading services track the trend values very well at all. Why grade a coin if the cost of grading exceeds the value? Take an example like the 1931 5 cent. PCGS shows 2 in EF45 and 2 in MS65, 40 coins total in >MS61 and 31 coins total <=AU58. Search ebay and get over 250 coins, most ungraded and pages to choose from for <$5. I agree that the lowball collectors really mess the logic, and "Pricing is one complicated subject" I certainly agree with.
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kbbpll, please don't always assume when I post in the grading forum, either for a coin or just a question, I mean TPGing the coin in question. I'm more often talking about the general availability of the coin, not the TPG population.
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Sorry, I misread your question.
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