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 Posted 01/09/2018  11:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Would like to know if anyone is aware of making this error possible through PMD?



I ask because I was looking to bid on one on eBay lately listed as 'Uncirculated 2000 5c mistrike' but I became a little suspicious when I looked at the seller's feedback and noticed that he had sold 5 during the last 6 months - 1/1976, 2/2000, 1/2001 and 1/2003.

This made me think twice as to how someone would have come to have so many of this particular error, particularly when he doesn't appear to deal much with coins by the couple of other listings he has on at the moment.

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 Posted 01/09/2018  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see how that could possibly be faked, but there would be definite signs of alteration. It would also require way too much work for the reward.

Do you have a pic of the obverse?
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 Posted 01/10/2018  01:20 am  Show Profile   Check Crazyb0's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks MAD and low pressure strike.
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 Posted 01/10/2018  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is possible that the seller works for a cash transit company. They take millions of coins each year from the mint (drums full of bulk coins) and put them through the machines to bag or roll them for distribution to the banks and retailers. Lightweight coins (split coins, off metal strikes, clipped coins and similar errors) are rejected by weight and wrong sized coins (broadstrikes, wrong blanks etc) are rejected by diameter. The reject hopper would get lovely Unc errors.
Those cash transit depots also process even larger amounts of circulated coins and the same reject system would spit out old silver coins and foreign coins. A dream job for a coin collector.
Then again the error coins might be smuggled out of the mint directly (even made to order for spectacular errors such as double headed coins).
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 Posted 01/10/2018  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add airgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a nice error coin. Impossible for the normal human to fake, but when the Chinese work out how to produce errors, and fool some people we'll all be in trouble.
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 Posted 01/10/2018  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks okay to me.
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Do you have a pic of the obverse?

I'm not sure which coin listing I posted originally ... here is the obverse and reverse of the 2001 which had a winning bid of $103.50.


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 Posted 01/13/2018  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is possible that the seller works for a cash transit company. They take millions of coins each year from the mint (drums full of bulk coins) and put them through the machines to bag or roll them for distribution to the banks and retailers. Lightweight coins (split coins, off metal strikes, clipped coins and similar errors) are rejected by weight and wrong sized coins (broadstrikes, wrong blanks etc) are rejected by diameter. The reject hopper would get lovely Unc errors.
Those cash transit depots also process even larger amounts of circulated coins and the same reject system would spit out old silver coins and foreign coins. A dream job for a coin collector.


I was under the impression that these checks took place at the Mint before distribution?
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 Posted 01/13/2018  06:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
But how do you expect the mint to physically check millions of coins? I'm certain there are machines in place to check them but it would not be unusual if a couple of errors slip past.
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I was under the impression that these checks took place at the Mint before distribution?


Maybe not - the mint doesn't roll coins any more so maybe they figure they can get away with less checks.
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 Posted 01/14/2018  03:57 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With proper diameter, weight and magnetism, there's not much else the mint can reasonably do to filter out errors like this when producing millions of coins.

An in-collar, off-center strike meets all of the qualifications of a non-error coin except by individual examination.
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