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Guess The Selling Price - Holed (Drilled) World Coins

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 Posted 05/26/2018  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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So I will guess yours cost less, maybe just a dollar or so.

Actually about 50¢.

I'm going to post one final one here, an 1834 Pi 8 reales purchased at a show about four years ago on the presumption that it was a counterfeit. In this case, the holing by its location clearly looked like a "cancellation" of the coin, plus it bears graffiti and the quality of the strike (at least on the eagle side) is simply dreadful.

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Well, it so happens that the weight and more importantly the specific gravity leave no doubt but that it's in fact genuine. The operation of the San Luis Potosi mint during this period was being carried out on a very primitive basis, to such a degree that the flans were actually cast!

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 Posted 05/26/2018  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see that a couple of these slabbed at fairly high grades sold recently at $160 and 180 at a Heritage auction.

So, knowing you're a pretty shrewd buyer, and that silver was just a bit higher 4 years ago than today, I'll go with $30.
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So, knowing you're a pretty shrewd buyer, and that silver was just a bit higher 4 years ago than today, I'll go with $30

Well, again, it was bought on the premise that it was a phony, so while I don't recall exactly what I paid for it, I don't believe it was over $10. It was a pleasant surprise to find that it was genuine (albeit rather badly damaged).

One more I picked up just today. No guesses necessary on this one, cost was next to nothing and it's pretty much worth the same amount. Holed but not drilled, rather most likely tacked up above a doorway using an old-fashioned square cross-section nail.

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Here is my recently purchased "holed" coin.
From Venice, 1275-1280, Giapolo Contarini.

To me the nostalgic appeal of this coin is much greater than what I paid for it.

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First, I'll just comment that I love those Venetian grossi and the imagery on them, which is more byzantine than European, and rich with both religious and political symbols. When I began collecting medieval coins I was amazed that one could obtain one of these, over 600 years old, in nice grade for $50-75.

When you use the term nostalgia, is that in a general sense of nostalgia for the era the coin represents? Or a fondness for Venice (both are understandable). Venice is such a special place.

Anyhow, I would guess something in the range of $10-15. And thanks for all the contributions to the thread. You've got a much broader range of holed coins than I do. I like the nail punched holes, as opposed to the drilled ones. Much more vivid for the imagination.
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I would guess something in the range of $10-15
maybe more than that, but I am ignorant for coins of this period
see the following link
http://www.ancientresource.com/lots...forsale.html

my (stupid?) guess would be 30-50$
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I took a look at recent sales on CoinArchives, and high grade examples have sold at 130 - 150 euro, but lower grades are going unsold at 35 to 70.https://www.coinarchives.com/w/resu...&results=100


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Thanks tdzimia and 1c5d7n5m

Actually, I must have been very lucky.
I managed to obtain the coin for $7.50 US from a "grab box" of ancient coins. See attached picture.

The feeling of nostalgia comes about as I contemplate the journey that this messenger from a far distant time had travelled to arrive into the palm of my hand. If only such coins could speak.

But wait, maybe they do. Maybe they speak silently to the sensitive person who does not necessarily buy for "wealth" but rather in response to a deep emotion. A person who has the "inner ear"...

Squire

PS. I am happy to be able to contribute to the thread. Next I would like to post a very unusual holed coin that I purchased just a few days ago.

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Great post, squire. That is quite a handful of history!

I recently sold this holed Polish ort (16 groschen) of Sigismund III. I think it's the oldest holed coin in the collection from my childhood which I have been slowly selling off. As I am of Polish descent, Polish coins have always given me thoughts similar to yours (could an ancestor have held this coin?).

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@Squire Wilson and @tdziemia
I share the same ideas, coin collecting is very much about getting connected to our history - this sentiment cannot (and should not) be expressed in terms of money

so it is a nice thing that holed coins can be reasonable or even low in price
(for the Polish coin of tdziemia my guess is perhaps 20-30$)

but holed coins can be extremely expensive! I posted a Guelders (Nijmegen) taler from 1585 as one example; on the last Schulman auction in Amsterdam, there were spectacular examples of rare medals : here is just one example out of a whole series https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot...lot&sid=2607 taxation 1000 HP 9000
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For the Polish coin of tdziemia

I note that this coin sells for $25-80+ online.
So I would estimate $25-35 for the holed variety as shown.
Especially because there is a "scrape" across the obverse.

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In lower grades, these Polish silver coins are very affordable, especially this type from the Bydgoszcz mint. A Polish seller sold some on ebay (no holes) for $10 to $20 (+$10 shipping) about a month ago, so I was pleasantly surprised to get $10.

A feature of this coin that I find interesting: the obverse legend with the king's titles continues to the reverse. So, on the front we have "SIgismund III by the grace of God King of Poland (REX POL), Grand Duke (MD) of Lithuania (LI) Russia (RVS), Prussia (PRV), Masovia (M), and ...continuing onto the reverse, Samogitia (SAM) and Livonia (LIV).
Quite a busy guy!!

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Whilst we are on the theme of Polish holed coins, here is my next submission "with a difference"
This Jan Olbracht Half Groschen from Poland (1492-1501) has three holes through the centre.
My first thought was that the coin had been used as a button. Maybe it was cheaper than "mother of pearl".
I would be interested why the coin has three holes through the centre.
Also, how much do you think I purchased this "little gem" for?

Squire

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Very nice! I think the guess as button is a good one. I 've had some coins with 2 holes, which I guess can be a pendant or part of a necklace, but 3 suggests something different like a button.

I've sold one of these coins (unholed) on ebay this year, so I know they often sell between $10-15 depending on condition. So, I will guess yours was less than $5.

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Thanks tdzimia

This time I was not so "financially lucky" when making the purchase. I picked this coin out of the "handful" in my previous post and that set me back $7.50

But I thought the unusual "3 holes" and the original use of this coin more than made up for this "financial deficit"

I also like the "crown and eagle" design and the well worn "visage" of the piece

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