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 Posted 04/14/2018  10:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sweet_Kenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wouldn’t it be easy to artificially clip coins? Just wondering why people consider it a collectibility.
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 Posted 04/14/2018  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Check TNG's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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There are diagnostics to determine a "fake" clipped coin vs a genuine clipped coin that became an error in the minting process.
Fakes are made all the time and sold to unknowing beginner or less error-educated collectors.
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 Posted 04/14/2018  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Check Crazyb0's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are tell-tale signs of a true mint produced clipped coin, the most basic is shape of the edge, is metal straight cut or it is pushed together. Then there is the Blakesley effect, a pressure differential 180 degrees opposite to the clip. Other factors apply as well, so yes, it is easy to spot a coin altered buy the garage imp LJ.



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 Posted 04/14/2018  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Genuine clip errors are always collectible.
One of the easiest diagnostics is the
Blakesley Effect (Wiki).
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 Posted 04/14/2018  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with the above. Here's a topic I posted that has some decent pics and a little discussion about real clips vs. PMD:

http://goccf.com/t/290283
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 Posted 04/14/2018  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mark1959 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ride on My LJ brother! Thanks CrazybO
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And With all six of ya! And it doesn't get any clearer than Crazybo' straight from the hip definition, especially how the fakes are done
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 Posted 04/15/2018  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(Genuine) clipped coins are kind of a fun collectible, like all genuine mint errors, may often be purchased at a modest price, and are sometimes found in circulation or accumulations. I have about 20 of them from different countries.
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 Posted 04/15/2018  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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One of the easiest diagnostics is the Blakesley Effect (Wiki).


No... my eyes always go to the rim, where the raised rim meets the clip. That dovetailing rim towards the outside of the rim is the key diagnostic - especially with larger clip, rim clips or straight clips where the Blakesley Effect can be absent...





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 Posted 04/15/2018  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USSID18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There are tell-tale signs of a true mint produced clipped coin, the most basic is shape of the edge, is metal straight cut or it is pushed together. Then there is the Blakesley effect, a pressure differential 180 degrees opposite to the clip. Other factors apply as well, so yes, it is easy to spot a coin altered buy the garage imp LJ.


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 Posted 04/16/2018  03:38 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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That dovetailing rim towards the outside of the rim is the key diagnostic


I agree. I call it a "tapered rim", but it is the same. I have been told here that the Blakesley Effect is more prominent on smaller clips. I have not found that to be true, however.

Genuine clips can be identified and sorted out.
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 Posted 04/17/2018  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add robmck1967 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is a great thread to read on clipped coins from Canada and there are plenty of beautiful examples

http://goccf.com/t/189188
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