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Is The Jefferson Nickel Series Complete At 1938 To 2003 ?

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I am wondering how many of the collectors out there consider the series is finished at 2003 when the last traditional nickels of 1938 design were minted. The nickel does return to Monticello but the obverse is gone and from what I understand, it isn't coming back.
I am not all that much thrilled with the new designs on the obverse of the recent nickels 2004 to date.

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 I consider the series is still ongoing until the Jefferson theme leaves entirely
 I agree 1938 - 2003 can be considered as the complete set

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I think it is fine to consider it finished in 2003, in a similar fashion to the 1932-1998 Washington series.
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I voted for, yeah, sure, consider it a complete set.

I'm not even that picky, my whitman folder I have for nickles only goes up to 1995. So thats where my collection stops. Even though complete sets are nice, the eight years of extremely modern missing nickels are not going to bother me much.

I do, however, have a little case of the wesword journey series. It holds P&D mint representations of the years 03-05. Or maybe '06, basically whenever it ended.
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I voted for the first choice.

Is it a complete Lincoln series if you stop in 1958 with the last wheat back? I don't think so...only the design was changed -- I think the same applies here.
In my opinion, a series is only complete once the design and theme is changed entirely.
(Mercury to Roosevelt, Morgan to Peace, Buffalo to Jefferson, you get the picture.)
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The design changed but the Jefferson series continues . the westwards were considered commeratives within the series and the new Obverse is ugly ! but the collection must contain them to be complete .
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I agree with wheezydog - once the design is significantly changed (going from 5-steps to 6-steps on Monticello is not a big enough change), I consider that series to be completed, and a new one has started. Although I don't know what they would call the newer series (after the whole Westward Journey mini series)...I guess we'll just have to see if they change the design again in the near future...
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All,

I think it is up to the person who put together the collection to determine what counts as a complete set.

I think a similar question can be asked "Is a set complete, if the proof only coins are not included?" or "Is a set complete without all of the various types?".

So put together your sets the way that you like and be happy with what you have accomplished.
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As a type coin series it is done but since the series name is called " Jefferson nickel" then I believe it is ongoing.

And I agree with you Metalman, current nickels have one darn ugly obverse.

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I consider mine finished at 2003 as I don't like the look or feel of the new nickels and have NO intention of collecting them.

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Complete at 2003. The mint will love you for it. Here comes another sales pitch! nlp
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Thanks everyone for your opinions on this, so I will have two UNC sets, one goes on forever with all the consecutive nickels I can acquire including later date Buffalos in UNC and the other is the Felix Schlag 1938 to 2003.
The new design just isn't the same for me. It is too flat.
I don't want Jefferson looking at me! I want to look at Jeffersons!
I wish it were more 3D or high relief but I can't wait to see this design in G4 or VG8 worn condition in the near future. If some think it's ugly now just wait a few years!
Now if they went completely back to the Felix Schlag portrait and Monticello reverse, I would maybe consider this break away series a short set and it would be part of the complete set.

Here's a thought, although a completely different topic ... Take for instance, small cents. These include the flying eagle, indian, wheat back, and memorial, and I think we are going to see a life of Lincoln series theme on the reverse soon on the reverse. I think each one is a series.
It would be neat if they ended the one cent coins era with a flying eagle run for 4 years. wouldn't it? Then folks, we would have a heck of a challenge to make a complete set. LOL!
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I think it is fine to consider it finished in 2003, in a similar fashion to the 1932-1998 Washington series.
I agree with both of these comments. As far as this collector is concerned, he has two completed sets!

I still collect the newer issues. The Statehood Quarters obviously have their own album, but I also have an "ongoing modern album" that holds the newer nickels and dimes (my Roosevelt album was full at 2004). My cent album happens to end at 2008, so the 2009+ cents will find a home in the new album. There is room in that album for the new 2010+ Quarters as well.

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jefferson is still on the nickel, so why would it be a different set?
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jefferson is still on the nickel, so why would it be a different set?
This is just my opinion, but look at it this way, Liberty was on the Half Dollar from 1794 to 1947, does that count as one series? What about Liberty's run on other denominations? I know Liberty is not a real person, but still a personification nonetheless. It could matter to someone; it really comes down to personal preference.

I love having "completed" albums, especially when there is no more room for extra pages. I do not want to replace them since they are in great shape and no one would buy them. I just took advantage of a natural break point that fit my collecting preference!

If you choose to continue the Jefferson nickels as one series beyond 2003, I won't fault you for it! Again, I still collect them, they are just in another album. Not any different than those that keep the Wheaties and Memorial Cents separated.
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I take an economic approach.

I collect the proofs as well and I simply can't afford them all, so I have personally declared 1991 as the last year I collect the moderns (at least for now). In case you're wondering, 1992 was the year they introduced the silver proofs for the dimes and up. Just can't go down that road yet.........

Of course, the other advantage is that it makes some of these "marathon" sets a little smaller and easier to lift and carry around
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There's a very real chance the nickel as we know it won't last more than a few years. They may change the design, or at least change the metal composition. That seems like an easier end point for me. Otherwise you might have a set of 1938-2003, 2004/05, and 2006-2010. I'd just as soon have them all together.

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