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Valued Member
United States
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I have started a little side collection of Roosevelt dimes and right now I am using the little tri-fold Wittman books to hold them. They look nice and all but over a long period of time will these severly tone my coins? I didn't really want to pay the money to buy a Dansco for an album full of pocket change. I would appreciate everyone's opinions.
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Valued Member
United States
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So I guess I'm not the only one with stagnant posts.  Anyways, for your application a Whitman folder will do fine. Roosevelt dimes are to inexpensive to put in an album in my opinion. As for toning, folders are pretty inert. -PP
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Canada
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Hi, I disagree on this one. The whitman folders for lack of a better word are crap. I have had many different sets on these folders and unless you are the type to want to fill it up all in one day then set it aside and never touch it again, they aren't very well lasting. The creases eventually weaken. The coins can eventually just fall out. The toning that happens fairly quickly sucks. Also, with a whitman folder say goodbye to ever being able to see the other side of your coins.
$20 every time you want a new set (to pay for a dansco) may seem pricey but in the long run you are paying for protection for coins that you wouldnt be collecting if you didn't care about coins. roosevelts may not be the most valuable coins now, but in the long term (100+ years) they could very well be worth something.
choice is yours but I have transferred all my sets into nice unisafe books (canadian version of dansco) or into 2x2's in a binder and tossed the whitmans out.
Edited by malissadawn 08/10/2008 8:27 pm
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Valued Member
United States
486 Posts |
Malissa, It doesn't make sense to fill an album with circulated Roosies that are worth roughly the same price as the album. I put my wheat cents in Littleton folders which work just fine for me! As for your statement on the view-ability of coins in a folder; Albums are no better because you can't spread the pages open like a folder. Besides the high cost of an album they aren't even airtight. -PP
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United States
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I agree with Malissadawn, since I started working at the coin shop I have seen what these albums can do to coins , especially Lincolns. The Lincolns invariably turn from red to brown in these, it may take a long time or a short time depending on the other environmental variables (temp., humidity, chemicals in the air). I would spend the extra on Intercept Shield albums or Dansco's, they are much more protective of the contents. I have some nicely toned AU/MS Mercury dimes from a Whitman album- they are nicely toned on the obverse but have black gunky spotty reverses where they were in contact with the paper. They can be used to impart toning , but I would only use MS silver or copper nickel coins , the circs just seem to tone very dull browns and yellows in the Whitmans, but the MS coins can look very nice after awhile. I want to know who thought it would be a good idea to press all your coins into a hole anyway ? I use 2x2's and three hole binder pages for all of my raw coins, you can put them in any order you want...label them how you want...move them around much easier... and I could fill a 3 dollar binder with 100 2x2's for 3.50 , and 5 twenty pocket pages for about 3 bucks...so a ten dollar album. I have had some coins in these for twenty years or better ( a couple years in an attic too ) with no ill effects whatsoever, I like them.
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 United States
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I have a raw collection of Large Cents and Lincolns in the nice brown Dansco albums with slides. For what it is worth, Wittmans are junk. But, I do agree with pennypusher. It makes no sense to put circulated Roosys in a $20 album. I recommend the green Littleton? folder. I have seen the Wittmans actually stain coins! Crapola!
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Valued Member
United States
346 Posts |
I think you guys are missing the point. He needs a cheap, non-Whitman folder to put his Roosevelt dime collection in. I'm going to go ahead and suggest a Harris folder for your collecting needs. It's the same tri-fold folder as the Whitman one, but it's not made of terrible material. Go with that one, I use them for all of my pulled-from-circulation coins.
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Valued Member
 United States
202 Posts |
Well, I have some Wittmans laying around. I think that I'm going to have my nicer sets of Roosevelts in a book that offers better protection. I will probably use the Wittman folders for just pocket change that I find just to see if I can fill a complete set from change. Just out of curiousity.
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Valued Member
United States
146 Posts |
i use the Whitman folder with the plastic slides what do you guys think about that?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
764 Posts |
for a cheap circulated set, theres nothing wrong with using a whitman folder. for the price of an album, you can replace the folder about 10 times. unfortunately you cant see both sides
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 United States
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I started with the Whitman folders, but after about few years of collecting, I started moving everything to Dansco albums. I keep everything in Dansco, even for the modern circulated coins, because I assign a lot of value to the sentiment of having collected these "cheap moderns" for the last 30 years. If you want something better than the folders, but cheaper than Dansco, then you cannot beat the 2x2 and vinyl page route. They are rather inexpensive, especially in bulk, and you can get any cheap 3-ring binder to put the pages in. This should only cost a few dollars more than any folders would. The ability to "customize" your albums is a plus. I do have some 2x2 albums myself, but they are the smaller 12 pocket pages that fit into the Dansco binders. 
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 United States
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Quote: i use the Whitman folder with the plastic slides what do you guys think about that? These are the Whitman Classic Albums, not the folders. IMHO, they are probably as good as the Dansco. I have heard people say they do not hold up as well as the Dansco, but I cannot speak from personal experience since I have only ever used the Dansco.
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Valued Member
United States
346 Posts |
Yeah, the Whitman Classic Albums most certainly do NOT hold up as well as the Dansco. The Whitman ones deteriorate more rapidly.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
666 Posts |
When it comes to toning I agree that the Whitman folders do some nasty things.
I'll also agree that the problem with folders is that they only let you see one side of the coin.
I don't think they've been around long enough yet, BUT, I suspect that the Harris folders won't have the same effect as the Whitman ones. Harris Folders also have a reverse spot.
If you want natural toning that looks good, I've always been impressed with collections that I've seen come out of the old "Library of Coins" albums. The only problem I've seen with them is that the sleeves will nearly cement themselves to the coins in ~10 years.
I've also seen some crazy (but good) toning come from Whitman albums. This is kind of a crap shoot though as for every nicely toned coin that comes out there are 4 or 5 bad ones.
You might try looking at a dealer for one of these used albums. The dealer I go to sells used albums other than Dansco for $5. Used Dansco albums usually run a little more but are generally less than $10.
Long story short - Whitman Folders Bad / Other Folders Better / Albums Good
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Valued Member
United States
271 Posts |
Yeah, like springcypress said, try finding some used albums from your local coin shop(s) and/or ebay...I've picked up used Dansco's from my local coin shop for anywhere between $5-$12, depending on condition.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow! We have some Whitman Folder haters out there!
Personal experience. I collected as a child. I had whitman folders. I had 2 penny sets, a nickel set and a dime set (quarters were too much money back then!). This was in the late '60's, early '70s.
As most people, I left that childhood pursuit and came back to them over 30 years later.
Not one single toned coin. Plenty of bright red pennies still there. Don't know what you guys are talking about. Of course, these were not stored in a garage, but only in the back of a closet all those years.
Remember, folders don't tone coins, collectors do!
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