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 Posted 05/16/2019  10:38 am Show Profile   Check TNG's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was wondering how this Jefferson nickel 303152198793 would have this much circulation wear and be a legitimate "Clamshell" to this dramatic degree.
It doesn't make sense to me that it would get passed around in circulation to have this much wear and not get pulled by somebody long before it became this worn.
Maybe somebody recently pried up that split layer by hand to make it more dramatic?



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 Posted 05/16/2019  10:43 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Clamshell Lamination to me. I think someone tried to pry it open Post Strike. http://www.doubledimes.com/Clamshell.html
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/16/2019  10:57 am  Show Profile   Check TNG's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is an interesting site Errers, and it looks like my theory is correct, it is a pried open circulated clamshell lamination. Does this still hold the value or would it have been better off not pried open?
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 Posted 05/16/2019  11:25 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It still does hold significant value, but it would've been better if it wasn't pried open.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 05/16/2019  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont remember which TPG it was, but I've seen a clamshell w/the missing piece aside it, in a holder.

The piece & host coin were supposedly found apart, in a bag.
Also, it had a hefty price tag.
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Thank you very much. I was thinking about going after it but have to check prices of others.
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 Posted 05/16/2019  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This time the pearl is on the outside.....Neat error,fair starting point for auction,IMO..I'd have to say a nickel guy should get it,(or The)..good luck TNG
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I dont remember which TPG it was, but I've seen a clamshell w/the missing piece aside it, in a holder.


Probably not the same one, but remember this http://goccf.com/t/241960&SearchTerms=Ike
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 Posted 05/16/2019  3:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a nice one! I usually think of "clamshells" as clad coin separations. This is a nice lamination.
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 Posted 05/16/2019  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dbrablec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool coin...
I like it a lot.
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 Posted 05/16/2019  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clam shells affect the edges of the coin.

This is a lamination that is peeling from the rim of the coin inwards.
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 Posted 05/17/2019  11:05 am  Show Profile   Check TNG's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone for the input.

I did bid on this after I asked the seller:

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Hi, Just how fragile do you think that split layer is? It isn't in danger of getting broken off with packaging and shipping issues is it? Thanks!

The seller replied:

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Hello: We package our items safely and securely, so don't worry about that. There is a little loss of the layer at the edge, but
that probably happened long ago. It's still an excellent example.
Thanks for the interest!
Take care.
Sincerely,

But if anyone here outbids me, I really don't care.
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 Posted 05/19/2019  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Check TNG's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I won it and paid. All my errors & varieties in US coins are probably 95% as Jefferson nickels.

I think my errors include a Centered Broadstrike, a triple curved clip, a single curved clip, a 20% off center and now this clamshell lamination.
My regular varieties are a 1939 Double Die REV, 1942 D over Hor D, 1943 P 3 over 2, 1943 P Doubled Eye, 1944 Henning,
1945 P doubled die REV, 1946 D over inverted D, 1949 D over S, 1954 S over D and a couple 1955 D over S.
I also have a number of more dramatic re-punched mintmarks and double and triple dies.
And I have the 1971 no S Proof.
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Reminds me of another error coin I have an image of:

But this one folded over after the strike.
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That's dazzling coop!
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