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Raffle Prize Win: 1876-S Seated Liberty Half Dollar

 
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 Posted 07/11/2019  06:44 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My $10 purchase of raffle tickets paid off at our July meeting of the Fresno Numismatic Society. I came away with this nice Seated half dollar. It looks like a crusty original piece to me. How would you all grade it?


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 Posted 07/11/2019  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With Partial Liberty and reverse motto I'll say VG-10 / F-12 .
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 Posted 07/11/2019  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this the actual color?
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 Posted 07/11/2019  09:40 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-12
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 Posted 07/11/2019  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Vf25-30 in spite of the illegible liberty on shield
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Sorry NS ,not in my book .
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 Posted 07/11/2019  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 07/11/2019  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is this the actual color?

Pretty close. In-hand the tint is more gray and less green/brown.

The coin shop where it was purchased for the raffle rated it "VF". I agree a complete LIBERTY on a seated half is no longer required for a VF grade from, say, PCGS. Evidence of "gradeflation", perhaps?

Here's my 1877-CC half which I sent to PCGS around 10 years ago. In spite of the incomplete LIBERTY they graded it VF-25. My new 1876-S has similar obverse detail and a stronger reverse. So, by PCGS standards at least it should qualify for some kind of "VF".



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 Posted 07/11/2019  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Given the typical uneven strike of this issue, I'm fairly certain the lack of detail on LIBERTY is because of that uneven strike, as would be the center details on the reverse.

Eye Appeal 4/10.

Certainly a great FREE coin. Congratulations.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse is a VF35
Obverse is at least a 30...lots of face/hair detail
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 Posted 07/11/2019  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say VF25.
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 Posted 07/11/2019  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
52Raymo - Obverse is at least a 30, with 4 letters of Liberty visible? Wha?
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 Posted 07/11/2019  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Check paralyse's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin is a solid 30. Like many 1876 San Fran issues, the coin is emblematic of the ongoing strife and discord at the SF Mint (reflected in the shield's uneven strike)

It is worth reading up regarding the SF Mint quality control issues on the 1876-S Liberty Seated issues. The employees' workmanship ranged from "mediocre" to "marginally acceptable" to "my 5 year old could have done a better job" -- a recent Numismatist article suggested sabotage by Mint employees for political and personal reasons may have also been at play. Coins were struck with little regard for matching previously used die pairs, causing weird die wear mismatches; the minting process was careless and haphazard for the better part of production and there were many quality control issues with the striking in general (e.g. misadjustment, weak and uneven strikes, and poorly prepared dies - pitted, damaged, overpolished, hastily tooled/reworked, etc...)
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 Posted 07/12/2019  02:30 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Froggy you can go to the PCGS site and bone up a bit on your grading.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd go VF25 on this one nice raffle win!
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52Raymo - Where did I say 10-12? I never offered a grade. Your reply appreciated.
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