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Gonna Need Some Help With This One. 1909 V.d.b Wheat Cent Mint Mark Error?

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 Posted 01/06/2020  04:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rayne7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've taken several photos from different angles trying to figure this one out. is it S mint mark under date, D mint mark under date, D/S mint mark under date? What do you think this is?








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 Posted 01/06/2020  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No mint mark,it was minted in Philly.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rayne7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, then what do you speculate is under the 9 in my photos?
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 Posted 01/06/2020  05:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would most likely be some type of die damage or PSD to the coin after it was struck.
Hard to tell which.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rayne7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
really....are you all even looking at the pics?
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 Posted 01/06/2020  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a very small gash under the date near the rim area, is that what you want us to look at? That appears to be post mint damage, but there is no mintmark, as already stated. Normal mintmarks are raised above the coin's surface just under the date, and your coin does not have a mintmark, sorry.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would anyone really go to the effort to remove an 'S' mint mark on a VDB for this date?
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 Posted 01/06/2020  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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what do you speculate is under the 9 in my photos?


A small amount of circulation damage and Pareidolia.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree it's a circulation mark. It's too low to be related to an S mintmark.
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yes, I know what a mint mark is and its usual location. ive seen several mint mark errors that are sometimes in the wrong place usually floating around the date area. but yes, I do understand about mint marks, lol let me post another pic highlighting what I'máseeing in the loop of the first 9 in the date. ..things look much different in real life.
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Oh, I see that you're talking about the mark in the 9. Is it raised? If so, maybe a die gouge, but still more likely a hit with displaced metal.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherryPicker1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see what your looking at under the 9, but that's not even the right shape for a D mintmark, which they didn't have in 1909, and definitely not an S mintmark. I agree it's either PSD or a small die gouge.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the photos supplied, I believe I'm seeing PMD--and I looked at each photo carefully. Would love to see the coin in hand but that isn't possible.

You do have a strong V.D.B. on the reverse--nice and distinct. Don't always see them that way. Decent coin.
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Either PMD or a die gouge, but not a misplaced mint mark.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing under the 9.
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 Posted 01/06/2020  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nobodies stated the possibility of a dropped letter with circulation wear, so I wont....

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