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Authentic 1943 Copper Wheat Penny?

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 Posted 04/02/2020  2:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add dust3110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi, just wondering if you feel that this 1943 copper Wheat penny is authentic or not? Thanks.


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 Posted 04/02/2020  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some images of one of the know fake copper 1943 cents. You might see if it came from this die pair:


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 Posted 04/02/2020  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Check CalzoneManiac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see the coin is a 1943-S, not a 1943 Philly.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it magnetic?



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 Posted 04/02/2020  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it may be a cast fake that has been "antiqued" to look aged.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dust3110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not magnetic.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dust3110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3.1 grams is the correct weight for a 1943 copper Wheat penny.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am pretty sure it's just a well made fake.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
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Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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 Posted 04/02/2020  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you clean it between taking the two pictures? I doubt it is genuine, but if it is cleaning it would take a horrendous bite out of the value!
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 Posted 04/02/2020  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Must admit it sure looks like it!
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 Posted 04/02/2020  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lawest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post pics of the coin (not in the 2X2), also a close-up of the date / mint mark
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 Posted 04/02/2020  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't go much further without better, higher res photos.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dust3110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin frog, it looks authentic to you?

No I did not clean it. It was owned by my grandfather before me.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dust3110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot provide any more pictures since I do not own a camera or cell phone.

Why do some of you guys doubt it's real? You do not comment, you just say you doubt it's real.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Check CalzoneManiac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If this was genuine, this would be worth well in excess of $100,000.
Unfortunately the Chinese have made fakes of just about every rare coin out there.
You can look at the 40 thieves website, they have loads of fakes all for a few dollars each.
Every month we see fake Bust dollars and fake Trade dollars.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, the odds of this being a genuine coin are remote at best. I can only suggest the OP take this to a reputable coin dealer and pay for submission to a major grading service. Otherwise, speculation will be endless and pointless given the detail available on this coin for analysis.
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