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2021 P. Quarter DDO Obverse

 
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 Posted 10/08/2021  9:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Miss Italy21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have a 2021 Quarter that I believe may be an error or variety? I'm still trying to distinguish the difference. Looks prominent in the "In God we Trust" and the "B and E" in Liberty. Looks like there may be doubling around the face also.

Not seeing a whole lot on the reverse, but adding pic anyway. Can someone please let me know what ya think? Thank you!




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 Posted 10/08/2021  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@miss, maybe my eyes are getting tired this evening but I'm not seeing any doubling on the obv.
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 Posted 10/08/2021  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am with Spence, I'm not seeing anything either. What do you see, thickness, notching? Can you give us closeups of the areas in question?
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 Posted 10/09/2021  05:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Miss Italy21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Guess my eyes were tired too!I did a side by side comparison and came up with nothing. But, look at the MM on the coin to the right? I'm seeing 2! Lol! Just say you see it. I've been trying to find a "something" for over a year now..

Not looking to make a fortune, just wanna FIND SOMETHING! It's an interesting hobby with a the thrill of actually knowing I'm getting this, kind of thing! I'll keep at it until I do. Still gonna keep asking because my intentions are real!
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 Posted 10/09/2021  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I can see what you are talking about on the right coin but I think it's just the lighting and mayb MD but there was no RPMs after I believe 1985 when the mint started engraving the MM into the dies. I could be wrong on the last year of them but it can't be an RPM.

In general for smaller errors you will need closer shots of the area in question.
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 Posted 10/09/2021  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wrekkdd, the mint produced rpm's officially through 1989, however quarters were the last to switch over, and records show the last ones were punched in early 1990. Just fyi, if you're interested.

Miss Italy21, your first photo is excellent in quality (good job), but then they got blurry from there. But going back to your first photo, I believe I can see Machine Doubling on the mintmark. This is a die event, not an error, but still, you were able to spot it!
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 Posted 10/09/2021  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 10/09/2021  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parnelli917 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I squint, I can see ELVIS!!!
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 Posted 10/09/2021  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ever notice that Elvis looks like the Statue of Liberty?

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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/10/2021  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cons to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
LOL Statue of Liberty does look like Elvis!
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 Posted 10/15/2021  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Miss Italy21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol! I'm not seeing Elvis in the Statute of Liberty! I collect stamps, also. Have some old Elvis stamps along with a ton of others. Haven't even started researching them yet! They were given to my brother when his ex wife's uncle passed. His mother started collecting them when he was born! Some real old ones, never used and the whole books and sheets still intact!

Thanks for the help, I'll keep searching!
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 Posted 10/15/2021  04:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Miss Italy21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop - wow you are good at this stuff! I read thru your coop home page for references! Awesome and very informative. Wish I could figure it all out!

What do you mean by polished example? I noticed the ear lobe, but again, I thought it was doubling? Guess, I'm just not getting the jist of all this!
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 Posted 10/15/2021  05:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When a die is polished, the outer edge of the dies are the fields. So when a die is polished, the fields suffer first. The devices are tapered at the tops to release the coins from the dies after the strike. So the widest ares on the devices are removed, making the devices shorter. Some sub designs are also thinned on the last images the earlobes are different sizes. The devices are smaller and shorter. And the bust size was also reduced. Why was the one die polished that much? Because from the eye area, it appears that there was Feeder Finger Damage on the die. Thus a deeper polishing took polishing took place. So one dies coin was a fresher die. Thus the devices are different sizes. All the coins from that point on will all look like your coin. So it is not a single coin, but several thousands of coins would be affected, until the die is retired. So it is a common die event.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/15/2021  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
... Machine Doubling on the mintmark. This is a die event ....


Not to be picky but isn't Machine Doubling a striking event?
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