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These Came Back Cleaned (1942 Walking Liberty & 1924 Peace Dollar).do You Agree?

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 Posted 10/25/2021  4:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tolch123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just got my 1942 Walking Liberty half (AU) and 1924 Peace dollar back from PCGS and both came back cleaned. What do you think?



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 Posted 10/25/2021  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We have no original images to compare them to.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would be disappointed with that outcome. The don't look cleaned to me.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While nice looking, a before and after comparison would be much fun.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  5:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfamind to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with others: hard to answer when there is no reference point.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really sure what they are seeing in terms of cleaning from these pictures but TrueView often gives an inaccurate and distorted depiction of the actual coin. Do you have your own photos of the coins?
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 Posted 10/25/2021  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, I mis-read your original comment. You're saying these came back from PCGS marked as having been cleaned, right? I do know that iridescent coloring often raises re flags.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These look straight grade.
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 Posted 10/25/2021  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They don't look cleaned to me either .
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The Walker looks fine. The Peace dollar looks like it was dipped and retoned. They probably bagged it due to the carbon residue on the obverse. That's always a risk with a dip - the dreaded black spots. Guessing they felt the Walker was AT?
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with fenton. The half looks original and the dollar looks dipped and retoned.
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You're in an uncomfortable position here with two details slabs.
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They don't look cleaned to me but both look artificially toned - although the TPGs tend to let that go a lot.
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Both look beautiful. I wouldn't worry about the grade. Take them out of the slab and enjoy them.
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I don't see obvious signs of cleaning. Take them out of the slab, they both have excellent eye appeal.
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I agree I am questioning the cleaning? If it was a dip it looks well with in approved Market Grade. Toning maybe they thought it was artificial ?
PCGS and TPG's can be so inconsistent to though. I am beginning to question there abilities to be consistent . I almost think PCGS is the worst because they
are held in such high regard by so many collectors but that can be another thread and I am sure there are many.
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